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Old 09-07-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Thanks to Bush and Cheney...you have the freedom to bash them.
Bwahahahahaha!! Perhaps the single most stupid thing I've read on this forum.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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Bush has a trail of wreckage to show for his efforts. Can you please show me something similar in Venezuela?

The entire hemisphere knows that Chavez is essentially correct in what he says about the United States, but you wont hear Bill O'Reilly say this
The "entire hemisphere"??? Of whose brain??! Only the severely limited.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:39 AM
 
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How many countries has Hugo Chavez invaded and how many civilians has he killed? How many torture programs has he set up?

You want to talk dictators? Start with Bush and Cheney. (Or you are free to call them what they are, war criminals)

Thanks and have a nice day.
If Chavez had the military power to invade his neighbors, he would do so. See Columbia and their constant border struggles.

How many citizens has Chavez killed- alot. How many torture programs-alot.

The little difference here is that the egregious "crimes" that the left accuses Cheny of was actually defending the country you live in so that you could whine and complain without being tortured by some tyrant like Chavez. You complain about gas and heating oil prices, but not recognize that Bush secured a safe supply of oil for the US for the next 50 years. Had he not, you would complain that he did not do so, due to the higher fuel prices we would see (can't have it both ways).

Chavez shut down opposition press, rigged elections, changed the constitution by force, and restricts human rights- all the things that the left supports doing in America. It is no wonder you guys are percieved as facists- you are facists.


The entire hemisphere? Again, as Irishvanguard said, which hemisphere of your brain are we talking about- obviously the left. Let's see........western hemisphere........right? Columbia, Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama, Brazil, Argentian. Peru, Chile, Paraguay, and Canada. Is that enough, or did they move the hemisphere due to rapid plate tectonics alterations from 'global warming". I guess Bolivia took over the world over night and no one told us. Even Nicaragua is cool to Chavez. Is this some alternate universe you are talking about?

The left cannot get any more insane, as they have tested the limits of that designation. There should probably be a new category- left of insane.

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Old 09-07-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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If Chavez had the military power to invade his neighbors, he would do so. See Columbia and their constant border struggles.

How many citizens has Chavez killed- alot. How many torture programs-alot.

The little difference here is that the egregious "crimes" that the left accuses Cheny of was actually defending the country you live in so that you could whine and complain without being tortured by some tyrant like Chavez. You complain about gas and heating oil prices, but not recognize that Bush secured a safe supply of oil for the US for the next 50 years. Had he not, you would complain that he did not do so, due to the higher fuel prices we would see (can't have it both ways).

Chavez shut down opposition press, rigged elections, changed the constitution by force, and restricts human rights- all the things that the left supports doing in America. It is no wonder you guys are percieved as facists- you are facists.

You are living in a dream world. The entire hemisphere is wary of America's narco-terrorist ally in Colombia. Chavez has been accused of these things from the C.I.A., the same C.I.A. that said there were WMD in Iraq and that funded and trained rightwing death squads in Central America under Reagan (leading to thousands of civilian deaths under Reagan)

Reading your post is like reading a blueprint for rightwing propaganda, it's sad how willfully misinformed you people are. I'm not saying you are stupid at all, you are not, but you live in an alternate, right wing reality that is at odds with the truth.

Also, there is no "safe and secure supply of oil for 50 years", our satellite in Iraq is likely to be about out of oil in 50 years, actually, sooner than that. There is no safe supply of oil in the coming decades, and American consumption and brutality will insure many oil producers will have alot of power in hurting a country who is dependent on oil
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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How many countries has Hugo Chavez invaded and how many civilians has he killed? How many torture programs has he set up?

You want to talk dictators? Start with Bush and Cheney. (Or you are free to call them what they are, war criminals)

Thanks and have a nice day.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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You are living in a dream world. The entire hemisphere is wary of America's narco-terrorist ally in Colombia. Chavez has been accused of these things from the C.I.A., the same C.I.A. that said there were WMD in Iraq and that funded and trained rightwing death squads in Central America under Reagan (leading to thousands of civilian deaths under Reagan)

Reading your post is like reading a blueprint for rightwing propaganda, it's sad how willfully misinformed you people are. I'm not saying you are stupid at all, you are not, but you live in an alternate, right wing reality that is at odds with the truth
So Chavez isn't a leftist dictator?
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You are living in a dream world. The entire hemisphere is wary of America's narco-terrorist ally in Colombia. Chavez has been accused of these things from the C.I.A., the same C.I.A. that said there were WMD in Iraq and that funded and trained rightwing death squads in Central America under Reagan (leading to thousands of civilian deaths under Reagan)

Reading your post is like reading a blueprint for rightwing propaganda, it's sad how willfully misinformed you people are. I'm not saying you are stupid at all, you are not, but you live in an alternate, right wing reality that is at odds with the truth.

Also, there is no "safe and secure supply of oil for 50 years", our satellite in Iraq is likely to be about out of oil in 50 years, actually, sooner than that. There is no safe supply of oil in the coming decades, and American consumption and brutality will insure many oil producers will have alot of power in hurting a country who is dependent on oil
What is up with you people and your hatred for America?
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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I'm not sure that the freedom loving people of Venezuela would agree that their leftist dictator Hugo Chavez is deserving of a thumbs up.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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So Chavez isn't a leftist dictator?
He is far less a dictator than Bush/Cheney was. He opposed the slaughter of Iraqi's. While socialists can usurp constitutional power like corporatist's can (and do) he is not a dictator. He did not steal any election like Bush did. And he has not attacked other countries like Bush did, or started torture programs like Bush did.

If you are going to attack another nation's President, you better first look at the one you voted for.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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What is up with you people and your hatred for America?

We don't hate America, we realize it has flaws while still being the greatest country in the world. We have brains, and we are informed. And we are not mindless sheep who only watch FOX "News".

Unfortunately, ignorance is a major problem in this country. Along with rightwing propaganda.
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