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I simply do not believe it is the governments job to provide me health insurance - or retirement monies.
Its my job. Not the taxpayers.
And, the FACT is, many other Americans feel the same as I do - hence all the objections. And hence the reason why there will be NO UHC
I don't want to pay stock holders or huge salaries to insurance company CEOs for my healthcare! I would rather the money went directly to the healthcare providers. At least the government will be non-profit.
Now we have the Tenthers the Republicans in Congress who espouse that the 10th Amendment prohibits programs like UHC, Social Security and Medicare. Once again the same people who are providding the busses are stabbing these wingnuts in the back
Hey stop forcing me to pay into Medicare and Social Security. We have been begging for this yet the lefties won't hear of it. Then after they have taxed away our money for Medicare and Social Security they dare us to reject it. Anyone ever read Catch 22?
You a conservative? hahahaha.......Who are you kidding? Which real conservative would support Medicare, much less benefit from it? You are not a conservative. If you insist on calling yourself a conservative while enjoying the benefits from medicare, then you don't understand what conservatism stands for.
Yes you are a socialist. I can vouch for the fact that you are one big socialist.
So Medicare and UHC are both socialist programs but one is more palatable to you than the other? Have you been reduced to splitting hairs here? Are there forms of socialism that are kosher to you and some that aren't? The ones that are kosher are the ones that benefit you directly? Isn't this simply opportunism on your part? What happened to principled conservatism?
If you are a representative of modern American conservatism, then I must say that conservatism has a bleak future indeed. The movement is packed with opportunists.
Yes, I do support Medicare for the disabled and retired. They paid into it, they should get the benefit. The keyword here is "they," meaning I do not benefit from Medicare, as you seem to insist that I do. Not only am I not old enough to secure Medicare benefits, I have 30 +/- more years to go. And yes, I am a fiscal conservative and a social moderate on issues of healthcare. While you're pondering what that means, consider also that I am a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, and have no problem standing up for what I believe is right for this country. What does that mean? It means that if UHC is the best thing for this country, then I support it. But it also means that someone, somewhere better start being straight-forward about how it will be paid for. No bloviating about 10 year projections based on fuzzy math, but real financing solutions that reflect reality.
My, how that must really throw a kink into your assumptions of me.
So I am to believe no one wants Social Security or Medicare?
Then Freedomworks and the republicans are correct and we shopuld immediately stop both?
Mmmm are all lefties so simple? Isn't it possible to phase out Social Security so those who have been taxed and are counting on SS for reitrement won't be penalized. Yet those with a long enough time horizon will be able to invest their retirement money in vehicles with much greater returns, have the ability to pass on to heirs etc. And we don't have to worry about the long term survival rate of the program. Why is this concept such a threat to the lefties?
Yes, I do support Medicare for the disabled and retired. They paid into it, they should get the benefit. The keyword here is "they," meaning I do not benefit from Medicare, as you seem to insist that I do. Not only am I not old enough to secure Medicare benefits, I have 30 +/- more years to go. And yes, I am a fiscal conservative and a social moderate on issues of healthcare. While you're pondering what that means, consider also that I am a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, and have no problem standing up for what I believe is right for this country. What does that mean? It means that if UHC is the best thing for this country, then I support it. But it also means that someone, somewhere better start being straight-forward about how it will be paid for. No bloviating about 10 year projections based on fuzzy math, but real financing solutions that reflect reality.
My, how that must really throw a kink into your assumptions of me.
Your post is full of irrelevant nothingisms. What does being a veteran have anything to do with anything? Are you trying to wrap yourself with the cloak of patriotism - that last refuge of scoundrels - hoping that my critique of you being a socialist will bounce off? Are you trying to convince yourself that you are not really a socialist because you went to Iraq and Afghanistan? Who cares? None of what you said changes the dynamic of this thread: conservatives who endorse and utilize Medicare are fake conservatives. They are simply opportunists.
Your post is full of irrelevant nothingisms. What does being a veteran have anything to do with anything? Are you trying to wrap yourself with the cloak of patriotism - that last refuge of scoundrels - hoping that my critique of you being a socialist will bounce off? Are you trying to convince yourself that you are not really a socialist because you went to Iraq and Afghanistan? Who cares? None of what you said changes the dynamic of this thread: conservatives who endorse and utilize Medicare are fake conservatives. They are simply opportunists.
The last refuge of scoundrels? Weak, very weak. Is that all you have? You think that after many months in the Big Sandbox dodging any and everything that is hurled at me, that i'm offended by a comment such as that from some weakling hiding behind his mighty keyboard? LOL
You have successfully confirmed what I have said before - there is no rationalizing with you. I'm not sure where you come from, but its best if you stay there. It would take more than UHC to make you whole again if you inadvertantly landed on my front porch. Bet on it.
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