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KRAMERCAT, there may be a lot of people that have some kind of personal experience/insight with 911 or professionals (like architects), that after reading the 911 commission's report have unanswered questions. It doesn't mean though that the tragedy was a conspiracy of some kind with an ulterior motive. It just means, some people have questions that may have simple explanations or possibly ones that can't be figured out.
For example, I'm an insurance broker and I specialize in health insurance. I've got a million unanswered questions about the current proposals for health care reform that don't seem to ever get addressed. I could be saying it's a conspiracy by the administration to take over all the money involved in the health care industry but, I'd be making a huge assumption. It's a great conspiracy theory but, just because I have unanswered questions, I can't start jumping to conclusions.
All I'm saying is strip away the secrecy. Make the confiscated video tapes, black boxes, and scientific evidence available to a truly independent investigation. The 9-11 coverup that passes for false patriotism is an insult to the thousands who died that day. Charlie has done the research, as have many engineers and scientists, and they say that the official explaination defies the laws of physics. I agree. Let's strip away the veil of secrecy and bring some truth to the American public.
The problem with these "unanswered questions" is that many of them indeed have been answered, over, and over, and over.
How many times do I need to hear these "truthers" say that cell phones did not work on airplanes during 9/11? Anyone who was around knows they indeed did. This is also backed up by FCC laws which limited when phones could be used on a plane, years before 9/11 and they just pretend you didnt respond and ask the same question again a month later..
Question sure, but if your not going to listen to the response and debate the accuracy of those that prove that the basis of the question is wrong information, then why ask?
An answer that satisfies a dull mind, is not a real answer.
Charlie Sheen's 20 reasons for Obama to open Congressional investigation of 9/11 and its aftermath.
CS – Thank you Mr. President. Okay, first; On the FBI’s most wanted list Osama Bin Laden is not charged with the crimes of 911. When I called the FBI to ask them why this was the case, they replied: “There’s not enough evidence to link Bin Laden to the crime scene,” I later discovered he had never even been indicted by the D.O.J.
CS – Number 2; FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, was dismissed and gagged by the D.O.J. after she revealed that the government had foreknowledge of plans to attack American cities using planes as bombs as early as April 2001. In July of ‘09, Mrs. Edmonds broke the Federal gag order and went public to reveal that Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were all working for and with the C.I.A. up until the day of 9/11.
Charlie Sheen should stick to ***** mongering and bisexuality.
CS – Number 3; The following is a quote from Mayor Giuliani during an interview on 9/11 with Peter Jennings for ABC News. “I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”
WHO TOLD HIM THIS??? To this day, the answer to this question remains unanswered, completely ignored and emphatically DENIED by Mayor Giuliani on several public occasions.
CS – Number 4; In April 2004, USA Today reported, “In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.” One of the targets was the World Trade Center.
CS – Number 5; On September 12th 2007, CNN’s ‘Anderson Cooper 360’, reported that the mysterious “white plane” spotted and videotaped by multiple media outlets, flying in restricted airspace over the White House shortly before 10am on the morning of 9/11, was in fact the Air Force’s E-4B, a specially modified Boeing 747 with a communications pod behind the cockpit; otherwise known as “The Doomsday Plane”.
Though fully aware of the event, the 9/11 Commission did not deem the appearance of the military plane to be of any interest and did not include it in the final 9/11 Commission report.
CS – Number 6; Three F-16s assigned to Andrews Air Force Base, ten miles from Washington, DC, are conducting training exercises in North Carolina 207 miles away as the first plane crashes into the WTC. Even at significantly less than their top speed of 1500 mph, they could still have defended the skies over Washington well before 9am, more than 37 minutes before Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon, however, they did not return until after 9:55am.
Andrews AFB had no armed fighters on alert and ready to take off on the morning of 9/11.
CS – Number 7; WTC Building 7. Watch the video of its collapse.
CS – Number 8; Flight 93 is fourth plane to crash on 9/11 at 10:03am. V.P. Cheney only gives shoot down order at 10:10-10:20am and this is not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 has crashed.
Fueling further suspicion on this front is the fact that three months before the attacks of 9/11, Dick Cheney usurped control of NORAD, and therefore he, and no one else on planet Earth, had the power to call for military sorties on the hijacked airliners on 9/11. He did not exercise that power.
Three months after 9/11, he relinquished command of NORAD and returned it to military operation.
CS – Number 9; Scores of main stream news outlets reported that the F.B.I. conducted an investigation of at least FIVE of the 9/11 hijackers being trained at U.S. military flight schools. Those investigations are now sealed and need to be declassified.
CS – Number 10; In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center, but were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone.
As the Philadelphia Daily News reported at the time, “Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero.”
CS – Number 11 – Hundreds of eye witnesses including first responders, fire captains, news reporters, and police, all described multiple explosions in both towers before and during the collapse.
CS – Number 12; An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows BBC News correspondent Jane Standley reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. Tapes from earlier BBC broadcasts show news anchors discussing the collapse of WTC 7 a full 26 minutes in advance. The BBC at first claimed that their tapes from 9/11 had been “lost” before admitting that they made the “error” of reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it happened without adequately explaining how they could have obtained advance knowledge of the event.
In addition, over an hour before the collapse of WTC 7, at 4:10pm, CNN’s Aaron Brown reported that the building “has either collapsed, or is collapsing.”
CS – Number 13; Solicitor General Ted Olson’s claim that his wife Barbara Olsen called him twice from Flight 77, describing hijackers with box cutters, was a central plank of the official 9/11 story.
However, the credibility of the story was completely undermined after Olsen kept changing his story about whether his wife used her cell phone or the airplane phone. The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. American Airlines confirmed that Flight 77 was a Boeing 757 and that this plane did not have airplane phones on board.
According to the FBI, Barbara Olsen attempted to call her husband only once and the call failed to connect, therefore Olsen must have been lying when he claimed he had spoken to his wife from Flight 77.
CS – Number 14; The size of a Boeing 757 is approximately 125ft in width and yet images of the impact zone at the Pentagon supposedly caused by the crash merely show a hole no more than 16ft in diameter. The engines of the 757 would have punctured a hole bigger than this, never mind the whole plane. Images before the partial collapse of the impact zone show little real impact damage and a sparse debris field completely inconsistent with the crash of a large jetliner, especially when contrasted with other images showing airplane crashes into buildings.
CS – Number 15; What is the meaning behind the following quote attributed to Dick Cheney which came to light during the 9/11 Commission hearings? The passage is taken from testimony given by then Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta.
During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, “The plane is 50 miles out.” “The plane is 30 miles out.” And when it got down to “the plane is 10 miles out,” the young man also said to the Vice President, “Do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?”
As the plane was not shot down, in addition to the fact that armed fighter jets were nowhere near the plane and the Pentagon defensive system was not activated, are we to take it that the orders were to let the plane find its target?
CS – Number 16; In May 2003, the Miami Herald reported how the Bush administration was refusing to release a 900-page congressional report on 9/11 because it wanted to “avoid enshrining embarrassing details in the report,” particularly regarding pre-9/11 warnings as well as the fact that the hijackers were trained at U.S. flight schools.
CS – Number 17; Top Pentagon officials cancelled their scheduled flights for September 11th on September 10th. San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, following a security warning, cancelled a flight into New York that was scheduled for the morning of 9/11.
CS – Number 18; The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004, and even by that point it was only in the trial phase. Calls from cell phones which formed an integral part of the official government version of events were technologically impossible at the time.
CS – Number 19: On April 29, 2004, President Bush and V.P. Cheney would only meet with the commission under specific clandestine conditions. They insisted on testifying together and not under oath. They also demanded that their testimony be treated as a matter of “state secret.” To date, nothing they spoke of that day exists in the public domain.
CS – And finally Mr. President – Number 20; A few days after the attack, several newspapers as well as the FBI reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC. In August 2004, CNN reported that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah’s visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
At least a third of the WTC victim’s bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the perpetrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings
Why is this story not being discussed in the mainstream media? Why are there no interviews for Charlie Sheen? Anybody...?
It's because to interview him would draw attention to his cause which the mainstream media does not want people to do. Nothing to see here folks, keep moving... The truth hides in plain sight and as long as people don't ask questions about it, the pesky thing will wither and die.
Charlie Sheen should stick to ***** mongering and bisexuality.
Hey, Hun, apparently you know how to hit "Reply" but you don't know how to read. Any comment as to the content or was your response just unconscious and automatic?
The problem with these "unanswered questions" is that many of them indeed have been answered, over, and over, and over.
How many times do I need to hear these "truthers" say that cell phones did not work on airplanes during 9/11? Anyone who was around knows they indeed did. This is also backed up by FCC laws which limited when phones could be used on a plane, years before 9/11 and they just pretend you didnt respond and ask the same question again a month later..
Question sure, but if your not going to listen to the response and debate the accuracy of those that prove that the basis of the question is wrong information, then why ask?
I was talking about questions that someone might have because of their carrer....questions that are too technical for someone not in that field to even know to ask or would understand.
All I'm saying is strip away the secrecy. Make the confiscated video tapes, black boxes, and scientific evidence available to a truly independent investigation. The 9-11 coverup that passes for false patriotism is an insult to the thousands who died that day. Charlie has done the research, as have many engineers and scientists, and they say that the official explaination defies the laws of physics. I agree. Let's strip away the veil of secrecy and bring some truth to the American public.
There are a lot of things in government that are classified for a reason and have to remain that way until that reason is no longer relevant. It can be for national defense or just for privacy even when victims are involved. Charlie is an actor....that's what he does for a living....drama. It would be a lot more of an insult to those who died and their families to release audio of them being heard suffering to appease a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
I watched a 911 show on Nat Geo or maybe it was the history channel the other day, that talked about this. They went through great detail to re-enact and simulate tests that cleared up questions truthers had about 911. In every situation, no matter how conclusive their test was in solving any mysteries or questions, every truther had a reason why the test was of no help....they just came back with more excuses.
Once people make a career out of something like this (like some of the authors) and they get proven wrong, they're not going to say, "Oh, yeah you're right....I didn't thing of that I see what you mean." They're never going to accept that they're wrong. That kind of thing happens all the time in the scientific community. Younger scientists through research disprove theories that older retired scientists worked their entire lives on developing. When that happens the community ends up getting split in half concerning who's right because, the old school folks will always have a reason for invalidating the new research (until they die...lol).....they don't just give up on something the spent their life proving.
As I mentioned, there are truthers who have written books on 911....they're not going to accept their work getting disproven as long as they can come up with a reason for invalidating any new research that finds fault in their work.
Why is this story not being discussed in the mainstream media? Why are there no interviews for Charlie Sheen? Anybody...?
It's because to interview him would draw attention to his cause which the mainstream media does not want people to do. Nothing to see here folks, keep moving... The truth hides in plain sight and as long as people don't ask questions about it, the pesky thing will wither and die.
Often it's because people who know better just shrug and dismiss the truthers because they are just annoyances to them.
Some of us do not believe the explanation about the structural failure just because "the mainstream media/government said so". I believe it because it has been explained to me in layman's terms, simply and logically by engineers who were actually there at the debris site--some of whom were in the towers on 9/11 themselves and worked there for years--and examined the pieces of steel and worked with NIST on the analysis. It's logical. It makes sense. No amateur with a video and their "physics" analysis of what they want you to see is going to persuade me of what they want me to think over the professionals who were there. An actor certainly doesn't trump the credibility of civil and structural engineers.
One of the engineers I know went so far as to look at one of the original truther sites that waxes on and on about physics, and said that it would make sense to someone who didn't know better, and that someone apparently went to a great deal of trouble to put that site together and make it sound convincing.
The truther story contains a glaring error that is vital to whether their story works or not: They insist that all the people who examined the structural elements, sifted through the debris and recovered items from the site were federal government employees or agents. And that's not true.
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