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White House officials have since backed away somewhat from Obama's opposition to mandated coverage for all, but there's no indication that Obama would support fines.
Let's hope not.
If something like that happened to my family right now, we'd be in deep doodoo. My husband's job was no longer waiting for him when he recovered from last year's automobile accident, and he wound up getting a job elsewhere at a much lower wage (not many jobs here in eastern IN). Insurance won't kick in for 3 months. We did get his COBRA letter, but as luck would have it, I am now on UI thanks to lack of work. The combo of his wage reduction and my UI is leaving us without wiggle room. I only hope my work picks back up by the time they begin deducting his new health coverage from his paycheck.
Somehow I doubt we'd qualify for a subsidy, but I really don't know what the criteria would be. All I know is that we're not at the poverty level, but we're truly struggling right now. A fine would be obscene.
I went for years without medical insurance. Single mom, going to college and working 2 jobs, couldnt afford it. When we got sick, we went to the clinic or health dept where fees were cheaper and I made payments on my dr./hospital bills. I bet I paid a monthly bill to the hospital for 8 or 9 yrs.
And you can still go without insurance, if you pay for treatment. If you use ER for regular treatment, however, then do you think other people should pay for the wasteful spending? ER costs a lot more than regular clinics, and that additional cost, when the patient is unable to pay, is a cost shared by everybody else.
Man the worst possible situation now for me. I can barely afford auto liability insurance, and now Obama and his friends want to pass a bill that would make it mandatory for me to have health insurance @$750/year. This is just a major tax on the working poor or unemployed. I pay $500/year for liability insurance, and I am getting Farmer's best rate. If you don't pay the $750/year, it comes out of your income tax refund, and if you owe I guess you get charged interest and late penalties on it as well? This is the worst of the worst as far as I'm concerned.
Interesting point, if we had Single Payer your Car Insurance would probably go down by 60% since you would no longer have to cover liability for injuries.
Sam on Homeowners Insurance.
Your employer would no longer have to worry about your Health Insurance or Workmens Comp.
I went for years without medical insurance. Single mom, going to college and working 2 jobs, couldnt afford it. When we got sick, we went to the clinic or health dept where fees were cheaper and I made payments on my dr./hospital bills. I bet I paid a monthly bill to the hospital for 8 or 9 yrs.
Aren't those clinics and health departments subsidized? I'm just trying to follow the money
Are you looking for a handout when you need medical attention?
No, I'm looking for something I could reasonably afford and pay over time if need be. A lot of "medical attention" sucks just like most drugs do. When is the last time anybody on here took a drug that was suppossed to cure something and it actually did? One drug is suppossed to treat 15 different problems--which means they don't know much about what they are really doing. However, a patient is suppossed to pay $100 for the stuff in the bottle that probably wont cure him. How many operations are really successful? The amount we are paying for healthcare isn't worth near what is being paid.
I like the medical savings account idea. So long as the medical community is given blank checks, healthcare will be way too expensive and wasteful. And every year we will continue to hear "healthcare is going up another 10% this year" even when the rest of the economy is deflating.
You can grow your own food and not pay dime in gasoline taxes. Face it, you can avoid transportation costs entirely if you really desired it. The government wants to make living and breathing a cost unto you. No sale.
I'm not following why you cite extreme examples to make/support your contentions.
If you have a plan to completely "check out" and be off grid and everything in between then let's talk because I'm very interested in exactly that objective.
Everything is mandatory in a socialist state. The only things that aren't are the things the left hasn't figured out how to mandate yet. I like to think that only one thing is mandatory in the Socialist Republik of Amerikan Slaves. That would be to bend over, drop your pants, and let dirty old Uncle Sam sodomize you until you die.
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