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Section 246 of HR 3200 prohibits federal payments for undocumented aliens
That section only prohibits federal payments for affordability credits. It does not prohibit the reform's health insurance requirement. Illegal immigrants would be required to have health insurance.
You're wrong. The Congressional Research Service provides accurate legal analysis; I wouldn't doubt their findings. Perhaps you should contact the CRS authors if you have any further questions:
Erika K. Lunder Legislative Attorney
elunder@crs.loc.gov
Alison Siskin Specialist in Immigration Policy
asiskin@crs.loc.gov
So we don't have a law which bans illegal immigrants from getting Government Health care plans?? factcheck.org says otherwise.
BTW how is anything that starts out with Thus it would appear not a statement of opinion?
Obama did lie. Obama's exact quote to which Joe Wilson responded, "You lie!": "The reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."
The Congressional Research Service says: "...unauthorized aliens who qualify as resident aliens (i.e., meet the substantial presence test), would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance." http://media.sfexaminer.com/documents/noncitizens.pdf
Obama did lie, unless he has written a completely different bill. Furthermore, What Joe Wilson has just done is back Obama into a documented corner. There's no way any health care reform plan can insure illegal immigrants now. That video clip of Obama's response, and Pelosi's and Biden's reactions are going to bite them in the butt when it turns out that illegal immigrants actually are covered.
Now, instead of providing a link to the CRS'sinterpretation of the bill, how about providing tangible evidence of your claim? For instance, please provide the exactverbage from the bill that would grant coverage to illegal aliens. Go ahead, we'll all wait...(but we won't hold our breath)...
Here, I'll help:
Read the specific text of the bill, instead of reading someone else's interpretation.
“Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.”
InformedConsent, you need to learn to read and comprehend things for yourself, and to stop listening to the fear-mongers and morons. Going through life taking everyone else's word for everything is no way to live. Sometimes in life, you're wrong, no matter how much you want to be right. Get a clue.
That section only prohibits federal payments for affordability credits. It does not prohibit the reform's health insurance requirement. Illegal immigrants would be required to have health insurance.
Obama lied.
Affordability credits are the issue. We don't want illegal immigrants to receive American taxpayer subsidized health insurance. If they want coverage, they'll have to pay full price. So that should pretty much eliminate the public option for them.
Now, instead of providing a link to the CRS'sinterpretation of the bill, how about providing tangible evidence of your claim? For instance, please provide the exactverbage from the bill that would grant coverage to illegal aliens. Go ahead, we'll all wait...(but we won't hold our breath)...
The Congressional Research Service, a part of the Library of Congress, is authoritative. You should contact them if you have any questions on this.
From CNN: "While the report found that federal subsidies to obtain health coverage would be restricted to U.S. citizens and legal residents, it also noted that the bill does not specify a citizenship verification system, something that critics say creates a loophole for undocumented immigrants to receive subsidies anyway. The report, released Tuesday, "undermines the claims of the president and others that illegal immigrants would not be covered under the House version of the bill," Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, told CNN." Health care bill has curious coverage for illegal immigrants - CNN.com
Isnt there some form of "amnesty" in the works for the illegals presently here. If so, wouldnt they automatically have eligibility for the public option at that point anyway?
So we don't have a law which bans illegal immigrants from getting Government Health care plans?? factcheck.org says otherwise.
There is a law that bans illegal immigrants from qualifying for affordability credits, but there is no citizen verification requirement in the bill.
"Rep. Dean Heller, R-Nevada, last month proposed an amendment in the House Ways and Means Committee to add a verification process. Democrats on that committee, including Rep. Xavier Becerra of California, voted it down because the rules it called for would be "unworkable," the Democrat said." Health care bill has curious coverage for illegal immigrants - CNN.com
Affordability credits are the issue. We don't want illegal immigrants to receive American taxpayer subsidized health insurance. If they want coverage, they'll have to pay full price. So that should pretty much eliminate the public option for them.
Except there's no verification requirement. The Democrats voted it down. See above.
It's amazing how the whiners come out big time every time Obama does or says anything. If The Almighty Bush (or Daddy Bush) had said any of this you would have thought it was the greatest thing and should be passed immediately.
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