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Old 09-10-2009, 07:22 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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The proof that ObamaCare will cover illegal immigrants
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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I doubt it's true, but it certainly should be. We already cover them in a very uneconomical way. It's time we took a smarter, more moral approach.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:28 AM
 
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I doubt it's true, but it certainly should be. We already cover them in a very uneconomical way. It's time we took a smarter, more moral approach.
Yes a smarter more moral approach to helping illegal criminals who do not pay taxes.

Pitiful.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I don't even need to read the link posted by the OP, because I have not seen any language in any bill where they establish the eligibility requirements, no language that says a person must be a US citizen before they have access to one dime of any plan proposed by 0bama or the democrats.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:39 AM
 
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It will cover illegal immigrants and hussein obama took the oportunity to outright lie about it in his speech yesterday. The moral thing to do would be to enforce our laws, deport all illegal immigrants, fine or confiscate any business employing illegal immigrants and use that money to pay for the cost of illegal immigration.

Instead of hussein obama making sure our laws are obeyed, he lied as expected.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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Illegal immigrants are already receiving free care in this country. I don't like it, no one likes it, but it is a fact and our government needs to deals with it. Right now, local taxes are paying for this free care at county/city run hospitals that are required to treat everyone, regardless of whether or not they can pay. We, on the local level, are paying for a failed federal immigration policy. We know they're here, we know they're not leaving, we know they need and will seek medical care, so why not act on figuring out how we're going to pay for it rather than forcing local gov'ts to always react to yet another fiscal crisis.

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Old 09-10-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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OBAMA IS A LIAR and Joe Wilson called him on it.

Lets face it, Obama is not even a good liar.

Damn, does the guy have any talent at all?

What can he do well besides down America and lie?
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Notice how he lashes out at the "pure misinformation" that ObamaCare will be used to cover illegal immigrants, but then in no way refutes the claim? His only "counterpoint" is to cling to the fact that the legislation doesn't specifically come out and offer coverage to illegal immigrants openly and directly.

This is insultingly dishonest.
This is his SOP.

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Does Not Require Proof of Citizenship to Obtain Health Services:

Requires That If One Family Member Is Covered, All Members Covered:

Requires Free Translation Services: Sections 1222
He is truly a bald-faced liar.

Did the dems/libs really think they could sneak this crap by?
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:59 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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2. Requires That If One Family Member Is Covered, All Members Covered: Another provision states that if one member of a family is afforded coverage all members would have coverage, thereby creating another loophole to give taxpayer-subsidized health care to illegal aliens. If a child of illegal aliens is born in the United States, then the entire family becomes eligible for coverage (Page 133).
I note that page 133 is never quoted but is incorrectly summarized by opponents. Page 133 refers to tax credits not to eligibility.

http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf (broken link)
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(2) TREATMENT OF FAMILY.—Except as the
11 Commissioner may otherwise provide, members of
12 the same family who are affordable credit eligible in13
dividuals shall be treated as a single affordable cred14
it individual eligible for the applicable credit for such
15 a family under this subtitle
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:03 AM
 
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Obama's people and their numbers suggest he will insure illegal aliens...so I agree with the South carolina Senator and others that Obama isn't straight forward telling it the way it is...or he has to explain the numbers and tell us he is "again" wrong on the numbers!
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