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Old 09-11-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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Public plan, mandates among Obama’s latest vision for health reform

Among the details of the president’s plan were making it illegal for any private insurer to exclude a person based on a pre-existing condition or drop a policyholder or “water it down” the moment someone gets sick and needs insurance the most.

Public plan, mandates among Obama’s latest vision for health reform | IFAwebnews.com

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Old 09-11-2009, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I know it may be heard for a 9/11 Truther to comprehend but a lot of conservatives, including myself, do not believe what Obama says. We believe that he is basically a snake-oil salesman.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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I'll give praise where praise is due, and this was praiseworthy.

But when private health insurance premiums go up and people flock to the government option, thus putting additional demand on the system, don't come back crying to us because your taxes went up to pay for this praiseworthy event.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I don't think Obama is a snake oil salesman --- I think he is good, very intelligent and if he sticks to what he says - team of rivals, stop bikering, bi-partisanship then he will be great for the country --- I don't trust the people that are on the FAR left that surround him and that are leading the house and senate...and people like sickofnyc
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I know it may be heard for a 9/11 Truther to comprehend but a lot of conservatives, including myself, do not believe what Obama says. We believe that he is basically a snake-oil salesman.

As I'm not a snake oil salesman, or a 9/11 truther, or a birther, I'll say I hope that they praise what he said at the beginning of the healthcare speech.

A lot of what he said is needed reform, I know the public option is contreversial, but the rest of it is pretty good.

I keep asking Repbulicans to quit fighting so hard against any reform, and back the good in the bill. Then you can work on the hard questions later. People getting dropped from health insurance the day they get sick, when they've been paying in for years is just wrong, and EVERYONE knows it.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I've said all along that the insurers should not be allowed to cherry pick.

I've also said I have a close family member that has had diabetes from childhood. Not at any time in his career has he been denied coverage, had to wait to be covered or been denied treatment of any kind. Ever. This is a career that spans over 20 years.

With every change of employer, he was put right on their coverage, never any problem.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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He can say whatever he wants but he needs aplan himslef. therwsie their is only the senate and houses so called plans. Obama is always sayting this and that but no plan. Now long have we been waiting to see that hopusing plan;since january when the administrtion said it would be coming;feb -coming;march-coming;april-;amy-coming;june-coming-july-coming-august -coming;results-nada.I'm gonna never got anything done.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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I've said all along that the insurers should not be allowed to cherry pick.

I've also said I have a close family member that has had diabetes from childhood. Not at any time in his career has he been denied coverage, had to wait to be covered or been denied treatment of any kind. Ever. This is a career that spans over 20 years.

With every change of employer, he was put right on their coverage, never any problem.
If his diabetes results in kidney/heart or peripheral artery disease, and the claims start pouring in, will they pay or drop him? He has to go to sleep every night in fear that the latter will become his reality. Happens to people every day. Just because he's insured doesn't mean he's covered.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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If his diabetes results in kidney/heart or peripheral artery disease, and the claims start pouring in, will they pay or drop him? He has to go to sleep every night in fear that the latter will become his reality. Happens to people every day. Just because he's insured doesn't mean he's covered.
He has diabetic retinopathy (eyes) - he is constantly pestered to see his doctor to get laser treatment, which has helped.

He has diabetic nephropathy (kidney) - he is encouraged to get all the testing treatment and advise necessary.

You're making a general statement about insurers, like that is the norm, once you get sick, they drop you. Nothing could be further from the truth - how do you explain the millions who are afflicted with such diseases and are treated and cured - every day?
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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The fact is, our companies, those of us who are lucky to still be working, can drop our insurance or change it at any time.

People do not change jobs because they don't want to lose their medical insurance. People do not start new businesses because of this huge expense.

It is draining the economy.

I am for single payer - I admit that. I cannot see how a U.S. business can compete with those overseas when the overseas businesses do not pay for employee medical insurance and our businesses must.

No wonder we are losing so many jobs, so many US businesses are going overseas to hire employees. Healthcare is a horrendous drain on US companies.
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