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Old 09-11-2009, 02:17 PM
 
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On the other hand, all of your fantasies about a single-payer system are true along with magic rainbows and the tooth fairy.
She's tentatively saying she's on your side, and yet still you cannot refrain from personal attacks.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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She's tentatively saying she's on your side, and yet still you cannot refrain from personal attacks.
I'm for single payer?

News to me. Thanks for the update DC at the Ridge!
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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No different than the porkulus, I mean stimulus...it was just a poorly disguised transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy with a few crumbs thrown to others.
Seems that sort of ilk is all Congress has been able to produce in legislation for the past half-century, whether from Republicans or Democrats. I'm not speaking in absolutes, but must say I feel confident in speaking pretty darn close to absolutes. I'd say we need some legislation to keep Congress more in touch, but who would pass it?

Good intentions behind initial legislative overhauls are wasted on greedy committees and the lobbyists who pocket them, so the final product tends to be filled with downright awful ideas.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:25 PM
 
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Sssshhhh.....the Elitist Continuum is very hush-hush about these matters. They have vays, you know, of finding out who you are and vere you live.
DC and Purple, you two are some of the more (far more) reasonable people on these forums. People don't have to agree with me politically all of the time for me to think highly of them. You are both thinkers.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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DC and Purple, you two are some of the more (far more) reasonable people on these forums. People don't have to agree with me politically all of the time for me to think highly of them. You are both thinkers.
I have my reasonable MOMENTS.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Yes, it seems all to obvious those who Obama claimed he was going to help are the first on his chopping block. This president is becoming a habitual fibber, and it's becoming more and more obvious what his real purpose and intent are. To literally "change" this nation into something else, while leaving the elitists and their fortunes intact. But can you really blame him, he is just playing with the cards you are dealt once you achieve this position of power. The president has a real fancy title, but he is by no means really in control of this country. So don't just blame Obama, believe me, it isn't really his fault. He is a figurehead, nothing more. The same can be said for nearly every American president in the last 70 years. Probably more.
And I do love people who see the big picture. Thanks for getting your news from something besides ideologue pundits. All this fear we feel for figureheads should be harnessed to revolt against those we can't see who would have us fall into the misplaced idealism and resultant cynicism of the two-party trap, and then we'd actually see some national defense or domestic change that would benefit society as a whole and not just the socioeconomic elites.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:35 PM
 
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I'm for single payer?

News to me. Thanks for the update DC at the Ridge!
Read the title of the thread.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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I have my reasonable MOMENTS.
She's reasonable. I just keep trying to be funny, and the sad thing is that I'm the only one who thinks I'm funny.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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I never heard of the guy that wrote this article, but he seemed to spin every issue that the President addressed to fit his own interpretation. At every turn, Obama's attempt at bipartisanship and wiilingness to appease and work with everybody involved has been distorted to fit the lies and rehetoric. Did you not notice what the name of the publication was?....."The World Socialist Website" and here I thought Obama was a Socialist, so which is it? The site is accusing him of being in kahoots with the insurance companies and yet the right wing posters have been screaming that he is trying to put these very same insurance companies out of business. Please make up your mind or halt, stop and desist from posting as you are exposing your idiotic thought process.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Agreed. I always tell people to pay more attention to who represents them in Congress rather than the President. Congress passes the bills, the President just signs them.

People also need to pay attention to local and state politics. Nothing infuriated me more than seeing people be so pumped up about the President and paying very little attention to who was going to represent them in the state legislature.
Great second and furtherance to Reads2Much's assertions. I wish more folks in places I've lived had shared this understanding.
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