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Old 04-03-2018, 05:06 PM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Strange isn't it, how tariffs on Chinese goods were not controversial when Obama was in office?
nailed it. the lefts hypocrisy is at an all time high.

 
Old 04-03-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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So targeted tariff vs essentially threatening and belligerently implementing a trade war. Yet you equate them equally.

Then you ignore the result of the small tariff because it doesn't for your narrative as it wasn't successful.

On top of that you'll still support the current trade war talk.

You folks are deranged.
 
Old 04-03-2018, 05:27 PM
 
Location: USA
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It was stupid then and Trump should learn from Obama's and W's mistakes, but there's no way he'd listen.
 
Old 04-03-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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nailed it. the lefts hypocrisy is at an all time high.
So one man doing some small action 10 years ago means every liberal supported it?
 
Old 04-03-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by aridon View Post
So targeted tariff vs essentially threatening and belligerently implementing a trade war. Yet you equate them equally.

Then you ignore the result of the small tariff because it doesn't for your narrative as it wasn't successful.

On top of that you'll still support the current trade war talk.
As well its difficult to declare what obama dis

You folks are deranged.
There is no trade war, just Trump critics insisting he is starting one. Obama's was "targeted"? Why isn't Trumps?

Obamas was not entirely unsuccessful. The goal was to reduce Chinese tire imports.

It worked.
 
Old 04-03-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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So one man doing some small action 10 years ago means every liberal supported it?
Im sure most liberals then didnt even know about it. Yet all of a sudden you are economic experts.
Where was the OMG its gonna start a trade war this is a horrible idea what an unthinkable action to even consider kind of talk?
Can you show liberals even criticizing it at all in 2009?
 
Old 04-03-2018, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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I'm sure bots praised him for it. He (Obama) actually placed tariffs on several thousand products trying to stem Chin's cheating. Too bad he didn't do a damn thing about them stealing intellectual property.



DING DING DING

The progs are showing how their concerns and priorities blow with the wind.

All we can do is point out the hypocrisy.
Look, I totally see the hypocrisy you guys are pointing out with this. Believe me, I get it. But I can't help but point out that this is par for the course for both the Democrat and Republican parties. Anyone can go back a few years and find instances where their party was on one side of an issue at one point, and then totally flipped to the other side of the same issue at another. Both parties are guilty of this. Not just the Democrats.
 
Old 04-03-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Strange isn't it, how tariffs on Chinese goods were not controversial when Obama was in office?
Tariffs are popular, but they seldom benefit the US workers in a free market. I like the idea myself ... on one level ... we need to tackle trade deficits in some meaningful way. Carefully applied tariffs might work in certain circumstances.

One reason people were aghast at Trump's decision was that we have been down this road before, the affects of tariff wars have been studied for generations, literally.

The only real controversy is how little thought Trump put into this, given what we know from past experience.

Trump likes simple ... simple answers to simple questions. He is overwhelmed easily with complex problems and he blows his stack, making rash decisions against good advice.
 
Old 04-03-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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nailed it. the lefts hypocrisy is at an all time high.
Painting with a broad brush, I see.
 
Old 04-03-2018, 06:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
Tariffs are popular, but they seldom benefit the US workers in a free market. I like the idea myself ... on one level ... we need to tackle trade deficits in some meaningful way. Carefully applied tariffs might work in certain circumstances.

One reason people were aghast at Trump's decision was that we have been down this road before, the affects of tariff wars have been studied for generations, literally.

The only real controversy is how little thought Trump put into this, given what we know from past experience.

Trump likes simple ... simple answers to simple questions. He is overwhelmed easily with complex problems and he blows his stack, making rash decisions against good advice.
I think you would be surprised to see the number of existing tariffs in the US and other countries.
As mentioned, the chicken tax on import pickup trucks is one.
If you see Trump that way I guess all his policies seem foolish.
Did you believe the media when they said Bush went into Iraq without a plan? Or when they said Cheney was at CIA headquarters pulling stuff out of file cabinets and telling George Tenet what to put in the NIE? And said Bush led congress by the nose voting for the war?

I got a real hoot out of all that..

Something like asserting Trump has never read a book.
If thats the scenario in your mind I understand the mindset but its far from reality.
Trump does have a business degree. He is impulsive and egotistic but thats why he isnt likely to screw up.

His legacy is job 1. Thus, the success of America.
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