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Having been part of a citizens advisory group for almost 3 years - and having been part of this group who made recommendations to the Congress on suggested changes in the health insurance and the health care delivery system in the US, I'd have to say that I might be a little closer to the issue than some others.
And as for the "radar" screen comment: Socialized health care, or a NHC or UHC style scheme IS NOT being proposed (radar screen) nor even being discussed.
Well, one thing that we ALL know, everyone of us, is that you won't be around forever and neither will we. Perhaps, there will be a more enlightened group of people in the U.S. someday that will actually CARE about other people and won't have the attitude of "I got mine, the rest of humanity (including the U.S.) can go scr*w themselves." One can hope that the latter will happen; it is with certainty that the former will happen.
I often wonder how people can sleep peacefully at night knowing that there are other people suffering and knowing that they're not doing even one iota to lessen that suffering. Instead they sit there on their high perch looking down at everyone else and gloating, acting like all-knowing, pompous a*ses. SICKENING.
Well, one thing that we ALL know, everyone of us, is that you won't be around forever and neither will we. Perhaps, there will be a more enlightened group of people in the U.S. someday that will actually CARE about other people and won't have the attitude of "I got mine, the rest of humanity (including the U.S.) can go scr*w themselves." One can hope that the latter will happen; it is with certainty that the former will happen.
I often wonder how people can sleep peacefully at night knowing that there are other people suffering and knowing that they're not doing even one iota to lessen that suffering. Instead they sit there on their high perch looking down at everyone else and gloating, acting like all-knowing, pompous a*ses. SICKENING.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to really do justice to the ENTIRE issue on a forum like this - it is far to complex an issue. But, let me try this:
THE main problem with converting the US over to a National Health Care scheme - which is owned and operated by the government (similar to the UK) is the sheer cost of start up.
And here is the complexity: Our Constitution would MANDATE / REQUIRE the Government (Taxpayers) to purchase every Insurance company, every hospital, every clinic, every physicians private practice, every diagnostic provider etc in the entire country - just to begin.
The Cost to do this is absolutely unimaginable. And this is the MAJOR blockage to converting to a National Health care type system.
Link please. I'd like proof of all these gloating pompus asses
You want proof? Any mirror will do. Play your games with someone else. We all know what we are. There is no doubt that there are plenty of pompous people who think they have the world all figured out; that is, until they fall flat on their face. Let's hope that there are more compassionate people to help pick them back up.
A Public option would not require such a feat (purchasing insurance agencies) and since insurance agencies EXIST within the UK system too.. I think your "excuse" is rubbish (as the Brits would put it). All it would require them to do is restructure their business models and think of new ways to maximize their profit potential..
But that aside.. going back toyour entire "charity" stuff..
Basically THAt is someone paying for someone else..
Why not a system where that person could actually contribute to their own care rather than have to be forced to rely on "charity"???
why are you so opposed to a public option? Afraid that the insurance companies might have to lower their premiums to compete? Really.. because i think that is a good thing.
And since so many of you and your like are so afraid of "the government" you wouldn't choose the public option anyway.. so you could keep private in business by using THEIR services.. and those of us like myself can use the public option.. ??
I just don't get why you are all so afraid if the government option.. if the government is so incompentent as you like to say it is.That doesn't make sense.
Oh... and the government option is NOT to be funded by tax payer dollars as Obama mentioned in his speech.. so why all the objection?
Well, one thing that we ALL know, everyone of us, is that you won't be around forever and neither will we. Perhaps, there will be a more enlightened group of people in the U.S. someday that will actually CARE about other people and won't have the attitude of "I got mine, the rest of humanity (including the U.S.) can go scr*w themselves." One can hope that the latter will happen; it is with certainty that the former will happen.
I often wonder how people can sleep peacefully at night knowing that there are other people suffering and knowing that they're not doing even one iota to lessen that suffering. Instead they sit there on their high perch looking down at everyone else and gloating, acting like all-knowing, pompous a*ses. SICKENING.
A Public option would not require such a feat (purchasing insurance agencies) and since insurance agencies EXIST within the UK system too.. I think your "excuse" is rubbish (as the Brits would put it). All it would require them to do is restructure their business models and think of new ways to maximize their profit potential..
I did NOT SAY a "public option" would require the buy outs TM - there you go misrepresenting my posts once again
I did NOT SAY a "public option" would require the buy outs TM - there you go misrepresenting my posts once again
I said, quite CLEARLY, that a NHC/UHI would.
How about some honesty from you once in a while.
I didn't say you said that.. where inmy post did I say you said that.
I do know that you object to a public option and was simply pointing out that what you say about an NHC or UHC does not apply to the public option.
Wow.. talk about mis-representing my post.. again..I didn't say that YOU said that buying out applies to a public option.. merely pointing out it doesn't.. so why the objection to that.
I did say, however , that your "excuse" against it in a BRITISH system is rubbish.. because private health insurance DOES exist in the UK.. and thrives quite well too.
Alot of pointless unsubstantiated hyperbloe. You are entitled to your opinion. Because you spit it with conviction doesnt make it the true.
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Originally Posted by Donna7
You want proof? Any mirror will do. Play your games with someone else. We all know what we are. There is no doubt that there are plenty of pompous people who think they have the world all figured out; that is, until they fall flat on their face. Let's hope that there are more compassionate people to help pick them back up.
I didn't say you said that.. where inmy post did I say you said that.
Post 195: Your words:
A Public optionwould not require such a feat (purchasing insurance agencies) and since insurance agencies EXIST within the UK system too.. I think your "excuse" is rubbish (as the Brits would put it). All it would require them to do is restructure their business models and think of new ways to maximize their profit potential..
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