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Depends. Perhaps you haven't heard yet that the reason we need healthcare reform is because of the outrageous premiums insurance companies are charging many people. Also, these people who cut out everything in their life in order to pay for health insurance could be denied anyway due to a pre-existing condition.
Oh.. as opposed to your attitude that what happens in AZ happens everwhere??
ONCE AGAIN TM, you have misrepresented, lied, about my post(S).
I HAVE NEVER said what you attribute to me. Quite the opposite in fact. I have said - "In my state", or "I don't know how it happens where you live" or ....and so on.
But, I don't believe, as you obviously do, that government is the "be all, end all" - nor believe Government should be as intrusive, as you do, in our lives.
You would not be opposed to Government taking control of all of our lives. I can't even think of such a thing.
You want BIGGER, MUCH BIGGER Government - and Government involvement
Others, including myself, want smaller, MUCH SMALLER Government and government involvement.
BTW, how do you explain Government workers voluntarily leaving Government to go to work for Private Industry - where they get better pay and benefits? How is this possible?
The discussion, this thread (read the title) is about INSURANCE - paying for the care. Not the care itself.
ER care is not cost effective and costs everyone. This has been acknowledged long ago as an expensive and inefficient way to provide healthcare to the uninsured. This system is kept in place because lawmakers want to appease filthy rich insurance companies!
BTW, a doctor can refuse to treat a patient without the ability to pay( just as your wife refuses to treat Medicare patients). This leaves those people with no choice but to go the ER when things become critical. Then we all pay and pay more! Bad system.
Care and INSURANCE, are two, totally seperate issues.
As for "single payer" - one issue that our citizens advisory group had 100% total agreement on (it was one of the few things that we all did agree on) was, logistically and as a practical matter, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to initiate, regulate and apply - collect. There are so many variable in the US compared to other countries - that a single pay will not work.
This makes no sense. What are the specific variables in the US that make a single pay system impossible?
This makes no sense. What are the specific variables in the US that make a single pay system impossible?
I can give you a couple:
1) Not everyone is employed there fore no tax witholding
2) The underground economy - people who work off the books - millions of them nationwide
3) Not everyone files tax returns - maybe they should but .....
These are but three of many
There was also discussion about who would be responsible for collecting / paying the required monies - government or employer or both or ....
There was the discussion about the need with single payer to VASTLY ENLARGE the collection divisions of government - growing government
And then, the discussion about, under a true Single payer - government owned and operated system - the Constitution and Eminent Domain. A whole different topic.
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