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Old 09-13-2009, 06:02 PM
 
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If you are a conservative who wants a small government, do you favor privatizing the military? Why not farm out the job of defending the nation to independent contractors? It doesn't make sense to scream about the huge size and cost of government without screaming against a major contributor to that cost - the defense establishment. If you oppose government run health care, why should you support government run national defense?
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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If you are a conservative who wants a small government, do you favor privatizing the military? Why not farm out the job of defending the nation to independent contractors? It doesn't make sense to scream about the huge size and cost of government without screaming against a major contributor to that cost - the defense establishment. If you oppose government run health care, why should you support government run national defense?
They already have. Blackwater now known as Xe. They just extended a contract with them.

http://renegadewaiter.wordpress.com/...tract-in-iraq/

I don't like it... but that's the way it is.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Why not? There is some question (to me, anyway) as to whether Section 8 of the Constitution permits a permanent standing army in the first place, but no specific ban on a private army being raised and equipped.

And, there would be precedent, both with the hiring of Blackwater mercenary soldiers of fortune to fight in Iraq and with the disbanding of the Continental army after the Revolution.

Continental Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:17 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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If you are a conservative who wants a small government, do you favor privatizing the military? Why not farm out the job of defending the nation to independent contractors? It doesn't make sense to scream about the huge size and cost of government without screaming against a major contributor to that cost - the defense establishment. If you oppose government run health care, why should you support government run national defense?
Absolutely. I mean, if the government can't do anything right, then wouldn't this be the logical conclusion?
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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If you are a conservative who wants a small government, do you favor privatizing the military? Why not farm out the job of defending the nation to independent contractors? It doesn't make sense to scream about the huge size and cost of government without screaming against a major contributor to that cost - the defense establishment. If you oppose government run health care, why should you support government run national defense?
This one is easy.

The military and how it is managed for the common defense is in the constitution.

Health care is something the government has no right to be involved in, and the reason the "system" is in trouble now is too much government intervention.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:19 PM
 
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My question is directed at conservatives who hypocritically attack government run health care but do everything they can to bloat the government run defense establishment.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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If you are a conservative who wants a small government, do you favor privatizing the military? Why not farm out the job of defending the nation to independent contractors? It doesn't make sense to scream about the huge size and cost of government without screaming against a major contributor to that cost - the defense establishment. If you oppose government run health care, why should you support government run national defense?
Because providing a military for the "common defense" is one of the few true and legitimate jobs of the federal government. First, you need to educate yourself on our history, and on the US Constitution and our founding fathers, and then you can ask questions that make some sense, rather than questions that make no sense designed to bait people into a useless debate.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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If you are a conservative who wants a small government, do you favor privatizing the military? Why not farm out the job of defending the nation to independent contractors? It doesn't make sense to scream about the huge size and cost of government without screaming against a major contributor to that cost - the defense establishment. If you oppose government run health care, why should you support government run national defense?
Didn't you get the memo? We already have. There are more private contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, then there are actual regular army on the ground.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Because providing a military for the "common defense" is one of the few true and legitimate jobs of the federal government. First, you need to educate yourself on our history, and on the US Constitution and our founding fathers, and then you can ask questions that make some sense, rather than questions that make no sense designed to bait people into a useless debate.
Should we have a permanent standing army, or does the Constitution only provide for an army to be raised in wartime?

The naval clause is specific in Section 8, the army clause less so, to me, anyway.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:21 PM
 
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This one is easy.

The military and how it is managed for the common defense is in the constitution.

Health care is something the government has no right to be involved in, and the reason the "system" is in trouble now is too much government intervention.
Why would too much government intervention not work in health care but work splendidly in national defense? And please don't answer "it's in the constitution", because that's not really an answer. It doesn't explain why government is effective in one case but not in the other.
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