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Old 09-15-2009, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Ft. Worth, TX
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I for one am sick of American business exporting our manufacturing jobs (and every other job they can think of) to China, Mexico, Ghana, Malaysia and a host of other cheap labor countries. I think that is one reason we have such high unemployment in this country right now, and there is no sign it is going to get any better for the foreseeable future. Just FYI I am not a union guy or a democrat, but this nonsense has to stop. It only benefits the rich guys and wrecks the middle class.

Great article by Pat Buchanan about this today:
Globalism vs. Americanism
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Tariffs are the wrong way to help American producers.
Why?
It fails to address why American made products and labor are more expensive.
If you check recent history, the point at which American labor became expensive was after WW2. This seems to be counter intuitive. With the end of WW2, a glut of laborers entered the marketplace. But thanks to the increase in socialist taxes, the overhead cost of buying American labor shot upward.
Where do those costs (taxes, overhead) migrate to?
The retail price.
But foreign producers don't have their taxes exported in their products.

The politically incorrect solution to the demise of American industry and labor would have been to cut BACK on taxes levied on the productive people and businesses.

But that is counter to the agenda of national socialism - the spreading of wealth - by taking from those who do - and give it to those who don't do.

If government was truly interested in restoring America's manufacturing prowess and prosperity, it would have to scrap the whole socialist system, its bureaucracy, its taxation, and overhead. That would eliminate 90% of the problem. The other part would have to deal with the usurers who extend credit at usury, since 1933. But that's a whole 'nuther topic.

In fact, eliminating all taxes and overhead on productive people would drive down the cost for health care, a very labor intensive industry.

But what does government advocate? Taking MORE from you for the benefit of another.

ARGH!
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Ft. Worth, TX
140 posts, read 270,416 times
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Tariffs are the wrong way to help American producers.
Why?
It fails to address why American made products and labor are more expensive.
If you check recent history, the point at which American labor became expensive was after WW2. This seems to be counter intuitive. With the end of WW2, a glut of laborers entered the marketplace. But thanks to the increase in socialist taxes, the overhead cost of buying American labor shot upward.
Where do those costs (taxes, overhead) migrate to?
The retail price.
But foreign producers don't have their taxes exported in their products.

The politically incorrect solution to the demise of American industry and labor would have been to cut BACK on taxes levied on the productive people and businesses.

But that is counter to the agenda of national socialism - the spreading of wealth - by taking from those who do - and give it to those who don't do.

If government was truly interested in restoring America's manufacturing prowess and prosperity, it would have to scrap the whole socialist system, its bureaucracy, its taxation, and overhead. That would eliminate 90% of the problem. The other part would have to deal with the usurers who extend credit at usury, since 1933. But that's a whole 'nuther topic.

In fact, eliminating all taxes and overhead on productive people would drive down the cost for health care, a very labor intensive industry.

But what does government advocate? Taking MORE from you for the benefit of another.

ARGH!
Yes I agree that taxation and regulation for that matter has really crippled corporate America and small business. It is certainly understandable why U.S. businesses want to ship our jobs overseas, but it is killing the middle class and the small fry kind of guy like myself. But I do remember the good times of the 60s and 70s. We had just about everything we wanted. It was mostly made in America and good stuff. I had a 1964 Olds F85 that was almost indestructable. I'm not a union guy or even "America First" kind of guy.

Well, the feds would never blame themselves for corporate America exporting jobs. They say the regulations are really horrible in the state of California and then throw in the threat of lawsuits on top of that. So since the feds will not admitt guilt (especially the tax and spend democrats) I don't see a solution to the problem, but continued high unemployment that might actually get worse. It doesn't look pretty IMHO.
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