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Old 09-19-2009, 11:55 PM
 
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:: rejoin group and staff in main room... notes tea service is busy... people mingling ...
soft conversational buzz... our attendees begin to take seats... gathering to continue...

..head towards my seat... stop when I see RFSilver... give him a big smile and a hug,
commenting upon his love for science...

:: as everyone is seated... announce ..::

there is one coalition of scientists that make regular reports of their thinking and studies...
and we have their respresentative for a guest...

::... a soft knock and the door is opened ... Topaz enters escorting David Wright...
she introduces him saying ::

Dr Wright is a leader of the Union of Concerned Scientists...

:: Topaz brightly continues ::

Dr. Wright is an established expert on the technical aspects of arms control,
particularly those related to missile defense systems,
missile proliferation, and space weapons...

without further ado May we welcome Dr. Wright... :: warm applause ::

:: takes a seat facing the podium ::


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Old 09-20-2009, 12:04 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Lets just take down the defense system totally, shut down the military and open all the borders.

If that is what Obama wants to do so be it.

We can then just have a chat on the WH lawn and talk to our enemies over a beer or two.

How damn stupid can people get?
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Old 09-20-2009, 12:07 AM
 
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Please make yourself comfortable, Dr. Wright, we are eagar to hear your findings, especially after the recent events in Poland.

<He hurries to a podium and sets his papers down, looks up and says>

"First, the antimissile system the Bush administration was negotiating to deploy in Poland and the Czech Republic would not effectively stop a potential future missile attack..."

<mumble good grief to myself... oh course not! That was the deal... ok Topaz, we have to find out everyone who knows so humor this man...>

"The interceptors for the European system have not been tested and could readily be defeated by decoys and other countermeasures that any country with the capability to develop a long-range missile could incorporate on that missile."

<clear throat, thinking... We'll have to ensure that this information does not make its way into American mainstream press... did we pull out our investments in time?>

Dr. Wright continues, "Second, proceeding with this deployment would increase the risk to the United States by hindering Russian cooperation, which is needed to help prevent the development of new threats.

<silence is deafening... suddenly a deeper problem is evident... how to gloss over, explain, or hide why a fellow globalist positioned the U.S. in conflict with Russia when its cooperation is/was necessary... how would we explain that without exposing....>

<Dr. Wright continues> "The Bush administration's deployment plan helped sour U.S.-Russian relations..."

<that was to be the perception otherwise how could we have gotten an agreement to have missiles there in the first place! D*****... how did this whole thing start to unravel?... shifts uncomfortably>

"Russia may have significant influence over Iran's actions given it is helping Iran build a nuclear reactor."

<Oh for goodness sakes! we need Russia to do exactly this to justify us "worrying" and then building systems to protect ourselves against a threat from Iran. RFSilver is going to be furious at this latest interference... was it my job to keep it tight?>

"Moreover, many experts believe that the North Korean and Iranian missile programs have received significant technical assistance from Russian missile experts over the past two decades."

<avoid everybody's eyes because I know they are all calculating just how much money does our group lose off this deal... mouth goes dry>

"It is unclear whether the Russian government was involved, but the United States needs Russia to identify and curtail further missile assistance abroad."

<we need to go into damage control protocol... also make those stupid senators shut up a minute, before somebody puts two and two together...we don't need the American public knowing the missile program was a farce... a money making deal>

"The United States also needs Russia's cooperation to reduce the threat posed by its large nuclear arsenal and inadequately secured nuclear weapons materials, which could be stolen by terrorists."

<gawd I hate having to listen to our own spin... outwardly nod slowly, avoiding RFSilver's eyes>

<continue internal strategizing... get American news outlets to sow the seeds of contention... focus on anything... violence in Iran, find a terrorist outfit somewhere in the boondocks, race, sexuality... get our globalist politicians in Congress to dispense marching orders to the foot soldiers to focus on health reform again..

get the attention off of missiles... if they're out there screaming in the streets, all facts and rationality will be thrown overboard...>

"President Obama should say no to deploying a missile defense system that offers no security benefits and needlessly provokes Russia."

Missile Defense: President Obama Should Reverse Bush Policy on European Deployment | Union of Concerned Scientists

<think... Obama is a wild card and should learn to do as he's told... why can't anybody reach him, bring him in line? the last thing we need is a real live nationalist, especially at a time like this>

<glance over at RFSilver, trying hard to reveal nothing on my face... for gawd's sake, our goal is proliferate defense missiles and buy time, not withdraw them. How in the world did this deal go bad?>

<beam a smile at Dr. Wright>

We're so pleased that you could inform us of the impact the Bush administration's proposed missile system would have militarily and politically. <we applaud and the doctor is graciously escorted out>

<curses punctuate the air... folders flung across the room...>

<motion waiters quickly to bring the tea and pastries... reassures everyone>

Be assured that our contacts have been alerted ... all news regarding Dr. Wright's observations will be masked by those emotional diversions that have proved so effective in the past... we must keep our heads...

<force mouth to upturn slightly... subtle complaints erupt here and there... hurries>

Now, on to our next topic, so that you understand that diversions/damage control are absolutely required.

The Council for Foreign Relations newsletter, interviewed a reporter for Novaya Gazeta, Pavel Felgenhauer. (Novaya Gazeta is known for investigative journalism, critical of Russian governmental policy.)

We have Pavel on the line and can ask one question... might we do this quickly?

<clicks on the telecom> Hello? Pavel, we must move quickly you understand so...

Question: What is Russia's view on Afghanistan?

<Pavel answers>

"Russia does not want the United States to have a foothold in Central Asia. We don't like them, of course, increasing their presence in Afghanistan, which is close to Central Asia."

Russians See U.S. Missile Defense in Poland Posing Nuclear Threat - Council on Foreign Relations_threat.html

<glance at RFSilver... then away... Russia was to look away as we quietly built a foundation to eventually have a missile system in that part of the world... this is serious because we know Pavel and his paper to be reliable>

Thank you, Pavel... Goodbye <click>

<recall previously read Pavel article> "Moscow, by the way, now has very good relations with Israel."

<silence is deafening... someone has possibly betrayed us...> I think its time to close ranks... We may be too overexposed in our dealings... we must find out what happened...

<glances over at Rare... her eyes worried... turns and sees RFSilver hurrying out the door>

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Old 09-20-2009, 12:37 AM
 
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Default Dr Wright threw us a pickle of a mess

wow ... Topaz this is quite problematic now... I wonder if we can pin our hopes on Dr. May?

What do you think? He was a contractor you know and the meeting is coming up this October. Also we believe he is on our side...

as a globalist, do you think we would take that track?

That durn Dr Wright has put a wrinkle in our plans...

::: ponders :: this IS challenging... how to keep the missile plan going...

I see how the kids become really smart doing this... you have to deal with truth and then manipulate it for your ends... I also now understand how ideological concerns get in the way... nope we have to be pragmatic and aggressive...

what do you think should be the next move?


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Old 09-20-2009, 12:54 AM
 
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Hmmm... maybe this is an opportunity for us to look over Andrew May's background and check into defense contractors.

Perhaps we can find out who is invited to the October meeting. Take a closer look at all participants, since there are to be at least five keynote speakers. That way, if Dr. May doesn't work out, maybe we can get close to one of the other keynote speakers. Either way, we must shut Dr. Wright down and his Union of Concerned Scientists. Maybe put someone on it to discredit the group.

How do we keep this defense program going?

This is one time I wish I could speak a foreign language LOL <thinks>

oh my gosh, this global game is addictive!
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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this is a perfect example of why normal people make fun of people that are addicted to RPG's.
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:13 AM
 
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<snaps fingers>

Rare, we can check whether or not we have ties to this portable missile system that they're talking about. At present we're connected tot he House of Goldman Sachs. We can see if Goldman Sachs is connected to this in any way.

I'm not sure if RFSilver would be pleased with us being connected to the House of JPMorgan because it is very connected to China right now. <starts pacing> Because RFSilver will ask us about reports on that portable missile system.... we should find out who has the contracts for the portable systems. Even though, dang, you know I'm actually kind of scared to find out. LOL
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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don't walk, RUN Welcome to the Center for Internet Addiction Recovery
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:17 AM
 
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that is a good idea even though gawd... how much research is that gonna take... lol ....

I cannot believe how much we have found out in one day... okay.. I was looking up those
keynote speakers and their backgrounds but let's take a look at these missile systems geared
towards short and medium range.



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Old 09-20-2009, 01:35 AM
 
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Default Claremont Institute MEADS system

okay Topaz...
we can use our connections to Claremont Institute to check out the MEADS system of weapons.
It is the work of US, Germany and Italy... designed in cooperation since the 1980's, it is targeted
ready for 2014.

Since the Claremont Institute is a conservative think tank whose

"mission is to restore the principles of the American Founding to their rightful,
preeminent authority in our national life,"

there is a good chance we have someone on board or very close to their leadership.

MissileThreat :: Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS)

We can start here... there is another system as well... let's see what we can come up with
in 45 minutes as to links we can investigate more fully tomorrow... we are on a time constraint
since its over by tomorrow night...

though we are not ideologically bound, of course we would want to try conservative outfits first... smile...

I am going to put more links here... as they develop...

.... will be back editing when I find more...


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