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Old 09-27-2009, 05:19 AM
 
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Social Security strained by early retirements


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Old 09-27-2009, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Social Security strained by early retirements
I challenge you to tell everyone in this forum how a person can be faulted for when they were born. What did you expect people of the generation to do, work until they're 95 so you can be "covered?"

And I'll say the same thing to you that I did earlier: wait until you get older, and some new bunch of kids comes along and starts criticizing your generation. I'll bet you'll have a whole wheelbarrow full of justifications ready to start slinging at them.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:14 AM
 
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I challenge you to tell everyone in this forum how a person can be faulted for when they were born. What did you expect people of the generation to do, work until they're 95 so you can be "covered?"

And I'll say the same thing to you that I did earlier: wait until you get older, and some new bunch of kids comes along and starts criticizing your generation. I'll bet you'll have a whole wheelbarrow full of justifications ready to start slinging at them.
Fred314 i don't accept your excuse, but i accept your challenge.

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Old 10-23-2009, 07:27 AM
 
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My parents prepared me and my grandparents are pre baby boomers and one set prepared themselves for retirement and the other set did not. However, unlike the individuals i have spoken to and seen on tv over the last three-six months, they are not ungrateful jerks. It does not dismiss their inability to prepare themselves for retirement, but i have realized most older Americans are in their position and not in the position of my prepared set of grandparents or my baby boomer parents for that matter.

Now those in the 95% category are asking for no socialism and no help, that is fine with me. If you can do it on your own lets get rid of these programs and my parents can take care of the side that did not prepare themselves. Hopefully everyone is as lucky, but judging by the fact that only 5% of the country is actually well off and the other 95% is living pay check to pay check, i have to believe a lot of people will suffer, but so be it! Pick your poison! I was a libertarian with compassion, but my patience has been pushed and I'm ready for true revolution and it starts with Social Security and then on to Medicare!
Yeah, right. Go ahead, write your congressjerk and tell him/her you want to end Social Security. See how far that goes. Don't think some of us boomers have tried. And I do want back every penny I paid into it, plus interest.

Believe me, Congress has ensured that is not a part of the American dream. You can focus the rest of your complaints to that Congress.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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good post dorok99- the boomers broke us, and we have to hear them blame everyone else for the next 20 years....
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This is a perfect example of fishing with dynamite.
Its also clearly an example of a large ego. This forum plasters the user name of each threads author in the main thread listing, and also plasters the author's name it at the top of all of our posts, and yet some people feel the need to sign each post with their user name, and in this case, sign the thread title too. LOL
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:29 AM
 
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Yeah, right. Go ahead, write your congressjerk and tell him/her you want to end Social Security. See how far that goes. Don't think some of us boomers have tried. And I do want back every penny I paid into it, plus interest.

Believe me, Congress has ensured that is not a part of the American dream. You can focus the rest of your complaints to that Congress.

WillysB i've heard this response often from individuals in your generation. I'm curious as to what exact amount of money and what compounded interest rate you think would be a fair and equitable return for the tax dollars paid into the system?

Recap
1. Give me a clear cut number of how much you think you paid into the sytem each year

2. Tell me your ideal compounded interest rate

I'm very curious to hear this response. I have paid into the system at a much higher tax rate with a significantly less valuable dollar. In 10 years if i did the math i'd say it's less that 15k with interest that i would be owed.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Dorock I have some sad news for you..... You don't control enough votes to get your way. We baby boomers vote so the elected officials will listen to us. Your only really viable option seems to be emigration. Surely there is some Eastern Block or South American country that practices the style of economics you prefer. Be sure to go by the American Embassy when you get there and formally renounce your citizenship, because if you don't we can still collect taxes. Bon Voyage!
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:39 AM
 
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I don't agree with everything dorock has said.....but he has a point.

After all, we are trillions in debt and just who do you think will be saddled with paying it off? The baby boomers? You people will be dead and past caring when the debt comes due. Yet your generation via Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Obama (and prior to that, W and his merry band of dumb fks) are running up the tab like there is no tomorrow. Well, for you guys there isn't --- but I'd much prefere my (and more importantly my childrens) standard of living not go down to pay your debts.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Unless you paid 1,000 bucks a month you are not only getting your money back but you are being subsidized by the rest of us.
Er, aren't you forgetting about investment and interest on all that money for so many years? That's a lot of interest that should have accrued in 40-50 years.
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