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It’s not about the birth certificate. It’s about 0bama’s honesty. He hasn’t released his law school records, his law review records, his Columbia university records. This thing could easily be shut down if 0bama would just release his birth certificate. There has to be some reason he doesn’t want people to see that birth certificate. Maybe it’s because he has dual citizenship, who knows. Not releasing his birth certificate will always give some people a reason to doubt his legitimacy, and for some reason 0bama is cool with that.
You all claim there is "something wrong" with Obama being President in re his birth. You make the claim. You make the allegation. Then YOU turn around and place the burden of proof on Obama himself with your silly "if Obama would just release his birth certificate"! YOU guys have to actally attempt to PROVE your claims with at least somewhat credible evidence. You all can't do that, as has been demonstrated over and over by various lawyers, pandering politicians, and unfortunately even some people in the military who may have been deceived by what appears to be a pretty poor excuse for an attorney.
As has been stated over and over and over: Obama has produced his birth certificate. So, he went one step beyond what has even been necessary, yet, you all still complain.
I'm getting pretty tired of hearing that old song about "I'm not really a birther, however, Obama could stop all this IF he would just release, yada, yada, yada." Obama didn't START all this. If you guys are so sure you're right, then go for it and PROVE IT. YOU ALL could put an "end" to all this mess if you COULD JUST PROVE your allegations.
He hasn’t released his law school records, his law review records, his Columbia university records.
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This thing could easily be shut down if 0bama (sic) would just release his birth certificate.
Yeah, the people clamoring for "law review records" (whatever those are) would be quiet if they just got this little extra bit of documentation. We're supposed to believe this?
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There has to be some reason he doesn’t want people to see that birth certificate.
Falls under the legal concept of "It doesn't matter and it's none of your damn business, anyway".
Let me explain: A certificate is a document in which an authority certifies something. (Hence the word, "certificate".) The validity of a certificate rests with the issuing authority. This means that we don't have to get, say, the responsible authority for Hawaii's public records to go on the record every time somebody applies for a passport. That is good, because she's busy.
On the flip side of that, if the issuing authority does go on record regarding a given certificate, that's the end of the matter. No higher authority.
And hey, whaddaya know: Relevant Hawaiian authorities have gone on record that the published COLB is an accurate reflection of the records. Which means the matter is settled, except in the minds of less - ehm - reality-anchored individuals.
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Maybe it’s because he has dual citizenship, who knows.
Who cares? It's a made-up obstruction. Rights to dual citzenship at birth does not prevent you from being a natural-born citizen.
Anyway, you seriously believe that a piece of hospital paperwork would help document that?
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Not releasing his birth certificate will always give some people a reason to doubt his legitimacy, and for some reason 0bama(sic) is cool with that.
Absolutely, and for a good reason: It makes the doubters look like fools.
Take Orly Taitz. She's an obvious nincompoop making herself look dumber by the day, and taking her seriously would be granting her a legitimacy she doesn't deserve. She's about to get disbarred and face court penalties and her client had to pay the defendants' legal costs. That's the face of Birtherism, and it's got egg on it.
It's not about the birth certificate. The birther's bottom line is that Obama can't be President because his father was not a US citizen.
Which would apparently legislate the presidencies of Herbert Hoover, Woodrow Wilson, Chester Arthur and James Buchanan, among others, out of existence.
It's not about the birth certificate. The birther's bottom line is that Obama can't be President because his father was not a US citizen.
I want to see the birth certificate because I do not believe he was born in the U.S. You should be careful about lumping everyone who wants to see the birth certificate into the same group.
I want to see the birth certificate because I do not believe he was born in the U.S. You should be careful about lumping everyone who wants to see the birth certificate into the same group.
Neither does Orly Taitz. YOu should check out the other thread on this "birther" issue and find out how well she is doing with that in court.
Also, it would probably be helpful if you took at look at the official birth certificate which has been provided to the public by President Obama.
See the above post by Dane In LA for an explanation of what "certificate" means.
He attended the schools. Many, like me, believe he attended on a foreign (Indonesian) student loan.
a person under the age of 18 cannot legally renounce their u.s. citizenship. therefore even if he was adopted by lolo soetoro (and there is no proof that he was), he could not have lost his u.s. citizenship.
and his college records (grades) would not indicate what kind of student loans he had in any case.
the accusations that obama attended college as an indonesian spring from an e-mail forward containing a blatantly fake ap article, full of provable falsehoods and dated april 1. they are just straight made up.
and you still don't believe obama was born in the u.s.? so you believe that obama sr. and dunham, two low-income students, went specially to kenya (where obama had another wife and kids) from hawaii when dunham was 8-9 months pregnant so she could give birth, then came back a couple of days later to apply for a hawaiian birth certificate for the child (and if they had, the place of birth on the certificate would say kenya) so the health department would put announcements in the honolulu papers? if that's not it, what do you think happened?
do you think either of the kenyan birth certificates proffered by the birthers are real? if so, that adds another layer of improbability to the story, because mombassa is 1000 miles from obama sr's home village and is not even the closest large city.
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and they are indeed making fools of themselves!
