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If there is one thing the United States is not good at, it's learning from history. It was only half a century ago that we gallantly replaced the French in a quagmire known as Vietnam. Now we seem hell-bent on giving it the good old college try in Afghanistan. And probably with the same results: lots of needless death (on both sides), plenty of media hand-wringing, and absolutely no effect on the region politically.
Of course you have the freedom to play internet commando 24x7, anywhere you please. The usage Tn is offering is merely symbolic. While you have the freedom to declare war from your cozy couch, you also have the right to be labeled as a fat, lazy, suburban nancy boy who is too cowardly to experience the field of battle but are more than happy to yell "hoorah!" for others in your stead.
What is that supposed to mean?
What makes you think you can call me a fat, lazy suburban coward without knowing anything whatsoever about me, or what I have had the guts to do in the past. Talk about Internet tough guys. Sheesh......
Who the hell do you think you are making dumbass comments like that?
Ok, I am not a fan of the Guardian because they are ridiculously leftist that my eyeballs pop out to beg for mercy
But I have a passion for the english language (which these buggers are very good at, excellent sentences) and I also like the political humour of the likes of Steve Bell or Rowson
This is a very interesting piece I read last year, I don't totally agree with it but it would make sense in part. What I won't totally agree is the "total pullout" for Hadrian had the freedom to pull completely out, and didn't have to worry about another empire threatening Rome's magnitude.
The Mesopotamia they refer to here might very well be Afghanistan.
"You see, senator, Hadrian's predecessor Trajan had staked everything on conquering Mesopotamia, which of course is the modern Iraq. At first Trajan successfully persuaded Romans that the war was going well, but in fact the mission was overstretched and gradually his campaign was undermined by a widespread local insurgency. So when Hadrian became emperor of Rome in 117 AD, just about the first thing he did after his inauguration was to withdraw the Roman legions from Mesopotamia, Assyria and Greater Armenia. All this came as a shock to the Roman psyche, which had been nurtured on endless tales of triumph, but in the end it made much better sense to bring the boys home. It meant Hadrian was able to consolidate Rome's boundaries and concentrate on the military campaigns that truly threatened Rome's security."
Thank goodness "WE THE PEOPLE" have the constitutional right to promulgate our opinions concerning our country.
It shouldn't matter if you promulgate from a comfortable livingroom chair, the crapper, the hospital bed, the office cubicle, the library, the prison or army base. What does it matter?
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
What is that supposed to mean?
What makes you think you can call me a fat, lazy suburban coward without knowing anything whatsoever about me, or what I have had the guts to do in the past. Talk about internet tough guys. Sheesh......
Who the hell do you think you are making dumbass comments like that?
I believe you are missing the context of what I was trying to point out. My post was loosely based upon a popular bumper sticker during the Vietnam war that read, "Why are there so many over here telling me I should be over there".
I'm reminded by that liberal fella, who went to the College Republican National Convention and filmed the various excuses why those people who so strongly supported the wars were not willing to fight them. The excuses ranged from bad knees to just simply, "its not for me".
I believe you are missing the context of what I was trying to point out. My post was loosely based upon a popular bumper sticker during the Vietnam war that read, "Why are there so many over here telling me I should be over there".
I'm reminded by that liberal fella, who went to the College Republican National Convention and filmed the various excuses why those people who so strongly supported the wars were not willing to fight them. The excuses ranged from bad knees to just simply, "its not for me".
I believe you are missing the context of what I was trying to point out. My post was loosely based upon a popular bumper sticker during the Vietnam war that read, "Why are there so many over here telling me I should be over there".
I'm reminded by that liberal fella, who went to the College Republican National Convention and filmed the various excuses why those people who so strongly supported the wars were not willing to fight them. The excuses ranged from bad knees to just simply, "its not for me".
No one is suggesting that pro-war, pro-occupation folks can't speak their minds or share their views, only that it comes across as a bit disingenuous.
Now those are some dandy chickenhawks. I'm sure they have TONS of bumperstickers plastered on their car to alleviate their guilt for not serving, especially that fat doughy wimp @ 2:58.
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