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What countries have the smartest people on average? I know this is a touchy subject but it's true that some places on earth have people that are just more capable than others.
What causes some countries to have more intelligent people on average than other countries?
The USA has a lot of smart people but it has many people from all over the world.
It is pretty much exactly as one would expect, with the Japs, Chinese, Germans and Dutch leading the pack. I don't think that those nations have supported the reproductive efforts of less intelligent multiple child families, thus maintaining the IQs of thier nations. It seems as though the US has made a concerted effort to "dumb down" the nation by it political policies. Soon, we will be like the movie "Idiocracy".
It is pretty much exactly as one would expect, with the Japs, Chinese, Germans and Dutch leading the pack. I don't think that those nations have supported the reproductive efforts of less intelligent multiple child families, thus maintaining the IQs of thier nations. It seems as though the US has made a concerted effort to "dumb down" the nation by it political policies.
All of those countries have a substantially more developed welfare state than the U.S. has or ever has imagined having. Germany has had national health care for about the last 120 years.
One of them is ruled by the Communist Party, for cripe's sake.
American kids eat a lot of McMad Cows. Hormones, antibiotics, pesticides, MSG, Aspartame, aluminum, mercury, fluoride, etc.
Oxford-bound boy genius is 'nothing special' in China (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-08/11/content_468190.htm - broken link)
The social pressure to succeed is enormous. The importance of education is drilled into children from birth and pupils frequently spent up to 14 hours a day studying.
Here's your answer as to why he is so successful. Find an American student that puts in this amount of time on studying and you'll find an American prodigy. It is not brain science people.
Obviously the Asians are smarter. Think about the major wars the US has ever fought against Asians. In WW2, the US pretty much defeated the Germans by conventional warfare. The Pacific front was a different story. It took us dropping those A bombs on Japan before the latter actually surrendered. The Korean war was a stalemate. And I don't have to elaborate on how we got our a$$e$ handed to us by the Vietnamese during the Vietnam War.
Every race on the planet made contributions toward the technological and scientific advances of mankind. No race is any smarter, intelligent or superior to any other.
People should be judged on an individual basis, not as a entire race or group.
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Every race on the planet made contributions toward the technological and scientific advances of mankind. No race is any smarter, intelligent or superior to any other.
People should be judged on an individual basis, not as a entire race or group.
dorado, i think you're right, but where's the fun in judging only individuals??? You cannot have a good argument unless you lump everyone into one shoe size fits all sort of category lol. It is the only way to get people talking about such issues. I get your point, but judging individuals takes way tooo much time, it is much easier to point out the best and worst of each group and use that as the defining theory on how/why they all act like they do or can do what they do......why bother pointing out the fact that there are 1 billion Asian and only maybe at best .0005 of them do well in Math enough so, that they test on genious level. It is like saying all black guys can play basketball well and are in the NBA even though the 300-400 players in the NBA represent .0005% of the African-American population.
Fact of the matter smart people in general are an extremely small portion of the general populace of any culture, race, ethnicity, country, and the list goes on. When you ask i question about smarter than what you're really asking is "Are my dumber people more dumb, equally as dumb, or less dumb than your people. The article was great, because it explained why those in Bejing do better. Hell, if i put 14 hours into studying math and science a day from the time i was 5 until i was 15 i'm sure my test scores would have been in the top 98% tile of the world. I only put in a quarter of that i didn't do too bad in math.
Think about who is going to be better in math and science
Kid A who puts in 365 days * 10 years 3650 days worth of 14 hour study days ...i think it amounts to (where is my asian friend when i need him for math doh!) 51,1000 hours worth of studying math and science
Vs
Kid B who puts in 365 * 10 years 3,650 but only studies an average of 1-2 hours a day.....(need my asian friend to help me do the math), but i think it is 5475 hours worth of studying math and science
I mean the proof is in the pudding.....the more you do something the better you are at it...thus this small group of asian kids in bejing spend their entire young lives doing math all day every day, so naturally when compared to individuals that don't do that all day every day they are far surperior ....
(I would actually go out on a limb and say it is more insulting to those individual children relating all of their academic success to their culture then to their own personal drive, determination, and willingness to sacrafice so many hours in the pursuit of excellence in math and science, but that is just me, i would much prefer to point out individuals that go above and beyond then an entire group strikes)
If the article stated they only studied for 30 minutes a day and scored in those ranges then i'd be super impressed
Final thought the only way to truly measure intelligence or educational aptitude is to have all students perform at the same level, give the same amount of effort, for the same amount of time, and for the same numbers of years, on the same subjects. Until you can create a test that accepts all of these individual variables any gross generalization of intelligence for any group is just not based in fact! .....Trying to create test to judge people (makes a seriousl vast assumption everyone puts in the same effort and time to learn various subjects and we all know that is not true)
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