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Old 09-19-2010, 05:14 PM
 
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At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years; the worldwide death toll of the Second World War was 55 million.
Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years' - News, Books - The Independent

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Old 09-19-2010, 05:17 PM
 
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In the context of Ten Commandments: in commandment #6 "kill" refers to murder and nothing else.

The 6th Commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Kill," Does This Command Forbid All Killing?
If it MEANT murder, it would have SAID murder.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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Quakers don't make such a distinction.
Scribes and Pharisees and lawyers or something come up with disst ink shuns.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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If it MEANT murder, it would have SAID murder.
Obviously you failed to read the link. Reading is fundemental.


The word "kill" in Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17 means "murder." The proper translation is THOU SHALT NOT MURDER. It is interesting that in Matthew 19:18 the KJV correctly translates the Sixth Commandment: "Thou shalt do no murder." The Hebrew word (ratsach) and the Greek Word (phonenō) which are used in the Sixth Commandment both clearly mean "murder." The Hebrew language has a general word for killing (the verb muwth, meaning "to cause to die") and the Greek language has a general word for killing (the verb apokteinō), but these general terms for killing are not used in the Sixth Commandment. Instead very specific words are used which forbid MURDER.

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org...e/6command.htm
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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War is nothing more than government sanctioned killing. For those who put God's law over man's law, it isn't important that they sanction it. Killing is murder is killing.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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Lenin pioneered the slave labor camp, but Stalin expanded it literally a hundredfold. Under Lenin, the inmates numbered fewer than 100,000. By 1930, they numbered 1,000,000. By 1940, the Gulag Archipelago housed fully 10,000,000 pitiful souls. The death rate was extraordinary: 10-30% per year, for the prisoners performed demanding labor such as mining and timber-cutting with minimal food and clothing in freezing temperatures.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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War is nothing more than government sanctioned killing. For those who put God's law over man's law, it isn't important that they sanction it. Killing is murder is killing.
All murder is killing; but, not all killing is murder.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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All murder is killing; but, not all killing is murder.
I don't see a difference between the two. You can justify it all you want...but I'm not the one making the judgement anyhow...if anyone at all is, it's not for me to do.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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Killing is murder is killing.

Actually, it's not. There are all kinds of killings that are not murder.

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Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being with "malice aforethought", and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter).
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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Actually, it's not. There are all kinds of killings that are not murder.

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Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being with "malice aforethought", and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter).
I wasn't speaking of legal definitions. So this doesn't apply.
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