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We fought. We kicked butt. We won. Now time to bring 'em home.
National security is a journey, not a destination. You don't win and go home as you seem to suggest. We've made that mistake time and again, and it's time we learned from our shortsightedness.
How can you say "we've won" with the situation in the world? Have you not been watching or reading the news? Afghanistan is still far from won, and Iran has again reared its ugly head just as the evil Dick Cheney and evil George Bush said they would.
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy
Such a silly and meaningless argument. To speak specifically about Iraq, and why we went there (I really get tired of having to repeat this argument)
[list][*]Military Strategy. We had an evil dictator in Iraq who was supporting terrorism. Monetarily? Definitely. With weapons? Probably. It was a known fact that Saddam helped to fund terrorist activity.
YES! THIS certainly is a silly and MEANINGLESS argument! This 'evil dictator' was an enemy of al Qaeda, you know, those responsible for 9/11?, and in that very limited sense an ally of the US.
IF we lose in Afghanistan it will be because there was no focus there when the war was initiated, instead of "Shock & Awe" it was pardon us while we divert resources to a non-imminent threat, feel free to get yourselves more deeply entrenched.
Oh, quit with the Bull Sh-t!
Sorry. I trust our military strategists more than I trust some "observer" citizen on the sidelines, who doesn't know squat about fighting a war, or military strategy.
You don't/didn't have the intelligence that our military leaders have access to.
You don't have the training to make such a judgement
It may be doubtful whether or not you can even tie your own shoes, let alone determine how to fight a war.
Our military leaders have the training and the education, and access to U.S. intellegence. You don't.
Go back to coaching a high school football team. You aren't qualified for anything greater than that.
YES! THIS certainly is a silly and MEANINGLESS argument! This 'evil dictator' was an enemy of al Qaeda, you know, those responsible for 9/11?, and in that very limited sense an ally of the US.
For the love of humanity....will you please stop with the false premise that Bush thought Saddam was in the plane that hit the WTC or some other silly myth designed to make Bush look like he blamed Saddam for 9/11?
If you took the time to understand the history and not be blinded by rhetoric and sound bites, you'd know that Iraq had WMD and as a condition of the cease fire in 1991 they agreed to UN inspections. You'd also know that they thwarted the UN time and again, along with the fact that Bill Clinton, the French, the Germans, and most Democrats in Congress felt he was a serious threat to his region and to the US. He allowed terrorist training camps in Salman Pak and had known Palestinian ties such as Abu Nidal and others. Just because he may not have had obvious or known ties to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda doesn't mean he didn't have terrorist ties.
After 9/11, we couldn't take chances with terrorists coming together with rogue states to threaten us or the world. Democrats believed this, and foreign governments believed this. Democrats have conveniently forgotten their own words and their own speeches since it's become politically beneficial.
You should try to refresh your own memory and learn a few facts about history and stop with the moveon.org talking points. It's getting old.
YES! THIS certainly is a silly and MEANINGLESS argument! This 'evil dictator' was an enemy of al Qaeda, you know, those responsible for 9/11?, and in that very limited sense an ally of the US.
Do you really think for one minute that Al Qaeda was not involved in Iraq after we went after Saddam? Do you really think that Saddam would not have offered help to Al Qaeda if we had not gone into Iraq?
They are all Muslims. It is said, "Blood is thicker than water."
we dont need any more dead soldiers too many already. we need the people that blew up NYC dead now. its been 7 years. do your job military.
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