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Old 10-14-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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Of course...the minute it is changed to soc. health care the drugs will be cut...so you won't get them as easily...who cares if you have pain? I know you and your family do, but not the government...it is about cutting costs!
I'm certainly no advocate for prescription drugs, but do you know who is responsible for not allowing Americans to negotiate drug prices as other countries do? Do you know why we pay as much as three times more than people in other countries?

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Old 10-14-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Gee - I pay $4.00 for my prescriptions.

I guess according to some, I'm paying too much!
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Here we go again comparing the USA to other nations and totally disregarding the population size.
Very funny but I doubt you meant that comment as a pun.

If you were referring to my post in which I said, "It's common knowledge that the average older American takes WAY more prescription drugs than any other older person in the rest of the world" then be my guest and prove me wrong. The accepted figures based on accredited sources worldwide (including the USA) are based per capita.

If your comment really is about size, viz "So many visitors cross my path here and I continuously gasp at the way they've treated their bodies. 30 and 40 year olds with massive flab hanging over their shorts and creasing up the back of their shorts." look likewise to world health and obesity correlation statistics (likewise and predominantly subscribed to by the US).

Never mind a one-liner comment such as, "here we go again..." If you want to enter a forum debate then enter it with facts and answer accordingly.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Yes I agree. A lot of doctors are complicit.
Complicatedly complicit and complacent?
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Michaux State Forest
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I'm one of those poor fools keeping the numbers down, I refuse to take manufactured drugs unless I'm on deaths door.
Me too! I'm a child of the 80s when antibiotics were seen as the panacea for everything! Guess what, ppl exposed to all those drugs are now becomming resistant so when they REALLY get a bacterial infection, they are screwed. I had a dangerous bacterial infection that got into my blood and I had to be hospitalized for weeks, on IV antibiotics because it was so difficult to get the infection under control. Finally, my mom just came back from the Dr.s for a cold. Without doing ANY tests, he automatically put her on strong antibiotics(z-pack), he didn't even try to determine if it was viral or bacterial, and because she had no fever, it probably was viral. I told her she would be better off just resting and taking care of herself rather than seeing a Dr. who was just going to pump her full of unneccessary drugs but she wouldn't listen, the damage is done. Now, like millions of Americans, she thinks she needs a drug(usually antibiotics) everytime she gets a runny nose or sneezes. It's sad and dangerous but she really thinks she needs those pill in order to get better, sad indeed.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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If you were referring to my post in which I said, "It's common knowledge that the average older American takes WAY more prescription drugs than any other older person in the rest of the world" then be my guest and prove me wrong. The accepted figures based on accredited sources worldwide (including the USA) are based per capita.
The up to 18 OxyContin a day that I take doesn't fall into your definition - does it????
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:45 PM
 
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It was probably a mistake when the FDA permitted pharmaceutical companies to advertise prescription drugs on television.
Probably would be an understatement. Here is a great article about it. A little old, still great. I don't care for the author much, but I won't argue with her about this one. It is from 2001. Even more relevant in 2009.

ARIANNA ONLINE - April 19, 2001 - Drug Companies: Sell Hard, Sell Fast ... And Count The Bodies Later
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:55 PM
 
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Well, we tend to forget it, but direct-to-consumer prescription drug ads weren't even permitted on television until the mid-90's. And that took place after an intense industry lobbying campaign.

I think it is time to declare that particular policy a failure, and return to the old system which was in place for several decades beforehand.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:21 PM
 
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Me too! I'm a child of the 80s when antibiotics were seen as the panacea for everything! Guess what, ppl exposed to all those drugs are now becomming resistant so when they REALLY get a bacterial infection, they are screwed. I had a dangerous bacterial infection that got into my blood and I had to be hospitalized for weeks, on IV antibiotics because it was so difficult to get the infection under control. Finally, my mom just came back from the Dr.s for a cold. Without doing ANY tests, he automatically put her on strong antibiotics(z-pack), he didn't even try to determine if it was viral or bacterial, and because she had no fever, it probably was viral. I told her she would be better off just resting and taking care of herself rather than seeing a Dr. who was just going to pump her full of unneccessary drugs but she wouldn't listen, the damage is done. Now, like millions of Americans, she thinks she needs a drug(usually antibiotics) everytime she gets a runny nose or sneezes. It's sad and dangerous but she really thinks she needs those pill in order to get better, sad indeed.
Since there is no cure for the common cold (maybe chicken soup) here is a great way to shorten the duration and alleviate some symptoms.

1 cup of boiling water
1 whole garlic clove crushed
Juice of 1 lemon
Cayenne pepper - as many pinches of it that you can tolerate
Honey - to taste
Drink while hot (not boiling)

Much better than any of those OTC cold remedies with no liver damage

Also, for a sore throat...raw onion - great anti-bacterial qualities.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Well, we tend to forget it, but direct-to-consumer prescription drug ads weren't even permitted on television until the mid-90's. And that took place after an intense industry lobbying campaign.

I think it is time to declare that particular policy a failure, and return to the old system which was in place for several decades beforehand.
It still strkies me as very odd that when they get to the part about side affects, more people don't get turned off. I guess that part of the commercial is like white noise to ignorant consumers.
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