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Old 09-27-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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The dead end kids

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The unemployment rate for young Americans has exploded to 52.2 percent -- a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept. -- meaning millions of Americans are staring at the likelihood that their lifetime earning potential will be diminished and, combined with the predicted slow economic recovery, their transition into productive members of society could be put on hold for an extended period of time.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the minimum wage laws.
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Old 09-27-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Don't worry, we will just tax the top 5% and give the kids free money... they should get used to relying on the government for everything... socialists love it that way... how else are you going to enslave people without calling them slaves...
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Old 09-27-2009, 08:48 AM
 
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with the minimum wage laws.
Im sure it has nothing to do with the unemployment situation among adults.
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Default 52% Unemployment Rate for the Young

The dead end kids

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The unemployment rate for young Americans has exploded to 52.2 percent -- a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept.

places the blame squarely on the Obama administration and the construction of its stimulus bill.

"There is no assistance provided for the development of job growth through small businesses, which create 70 percent of the jobs in the country," Angrisani said in an interview last week.
Another example of the failed stimulus bill. The only sector that has gained jobs is the government. Taking away money from the private sector to grow the government was/is/always will be a colossal mistake.

How many were screaming at the tops of their lungs that obama's stimulus bill would be anything but stimulative?
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:36 AM
 
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Another example of the failed stimulus bill. The only sector that has gained jobs is the government. Taking away money from the private sector to grow the government was/is/always will be a colossal mistake.

How many were screaming at the tops of their lungs that obama's stimulus bill would be anything but stimulative?
You just don't get it. We were losing jobs before Obama took office. Open your eyes and stop being negative. That's the problem with people, they blame ,but offer no solutions. Obama offer a package that will put some people back to work. The bill will not fix the problems we face overnight like you want it to. It took many years to get here and it will take many years to recover. If you want to do your part to help USA stop buying goods made in China or Mexico.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Don't worry, we will just tax the top 5% and give the kids free money... they should get used to relying on the government for everything... socialists love it that way... how else are you going to enslave people without calling them slaves...
That's not entirely true, not all socialist rely on government. Libertarian socialists for instance strongly distrust the government. In fact, many of them go so far as to wish to see the government abolished entirely, as they don't see the government's authority as legitimate as we never consented to it's rule. Others may favor a minimalist or "minarchist" approach in regards to government. Libertarian socialism is often seen as being synonymous with anarchism, after all.

In short, libertarian socialism is opposed to all authority that can't justify itself, be it the government, corporations, or even society itself.

And interesting that you talk about being enslaved. Well, what do you think we have now? When you're forced to serve a master whom will make a fortune off of your hard work while you live paycheck to paycheck, with the threat of homelessness and starvation if you don't, then how are you not a slave? Indeed, socialists tend to view renting one's self out to an owner as being not too far different than slavery itself, often referring to it as "wage slavery."

As much as we wisely distrust government, I'd argue that the corporations are inherently just as authoritarian.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:56 AM
 
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If they eliminated minumum wage laws a lot of these people would be able to secure jobs. I know several people that lost jobs when this last minimum wage hike went through. All teenagers.
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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If they eliminated minumum wage laws a lot of these people would be able to secure jobs. I know several people that lost jobs when this last minimum wage hike went through. All teenagers.
If they eliminated the minimum wage zillions of Slave Mart employees would be making $2.00 an hour
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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That's not entirely true, not all socialist rely on government. Libertarian socialists for instance strongly distrust the government. In fact, many of them go so far as to wish to see the government abolished entirely, as they don't see the government's authority as legitimate as we never consented to it's rule. Others may favor a minimalist or "minarchist" approach in regards to government. Libertarian socialism is often seen as being synonymous with anarchism, after all.

In short, libertarian socialism is opposed to all authority that can't justify itself, be it the government, corporations, or even society itself.
Sounds like anarchism but the socialism I am talking about is obviously different.. the one I am talking is the one where they desire Big Government... especially one that steals to get them what they want... what do I define as stealing? Taking from one group to benefit another... if you are going to take something, you better take it from everyone, equally, as in an equal percent...

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And interesting that you talk about being enslaved. Well, what do you think we have now? When you're forced to serve a master whom will make a fortune off of your hard work while you live paycheck to paycheck, with the threat of homelessness and starvation if you don't, then how are you not a slave? Indeed, socialists tend to view renting one's self out to an owner as being not too far different than slavery itself, often referring to it as "wage slavery."

As much as we wisely distrust government, I'd argue that the corporations are inherently just as authoritarian.
Corporations who become politically connected is what I like to call "Corporatism"... its not capitalism as capitalism has minimally involvement with politics... as far as being enslaved to a job, I don't agree... Considering we are one the best well-paid in the world, I think it is hypocritical to say that we are underpaid... sure everybody likes to have "more" but doesn't mean that you are "entitled" to more... Some jobs have very little skill/intelligence involved but that doesn't mean their slaves to companies... their slaves to their own inadequacies compared to the nation's population... You might say a public company CEO makes too much compared to the lowest wage earner and you have a point considering its a "public company" therefore should adhere to some public regulation (alas we have a "corporatist" style government so it ain't going to happen)... however, on the otherhand, if you have a PRIVATE company (i.e. one that is held by an actual owner instead of stockholders), the owner get paid as much as he/she wants... its THEIR company, the workers have a right to not work there if they don't like the pay but I hold them to different rules than "public" companies... its "more" than just a guy who makes less than the CEO = slavery... its about whose company it is and what they offer... if you don't like the offer, move to another city or find another job... with government slavery, it doesn't matter where you go, you are enslaved regardless...
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Don't worry, we will just tax the top 5% and give the kids free money... they should get used to relying on the government for everything... socialists love it that way... how else are you going to enslave people without calling them slaves...
Aw, c'mon now... President Zero can just print some more money, then drop it out of airplanes as they fly over the blue states and grave yards that elected him.
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