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I don't think anyone is arguing they are the same. The point is the real "socialists" are being kicked to the curb across Europe.
Even if the conservative liberals retain elements of a socialized agenda, there is no doubt they are adopting a more conservative view on tax relief, regulation and other issues.
No they aren't. The parties in Europe do not have anti socialism platforms. Like other Countries nowadays..including America...Parties are VOTED OUT not VOTED IN. Today we vote in the other party not because they are better but purely because we are sick of the old party and would vote in a moron if it was leading the other party. Got NOTHING to do with socialism or being fed up with it.
I doubt that there are any really conservative parties in Europe at..
Least compared to America.
Ireland and Poland are probably somewhat conservative by european standards.
I dont see much social or fiscal conservative in Europe.
I don't think anyone is arguing they are the same. The point is the real "socialists" are being kicked to the curb across Europe.
Even if the conservative liberals retain elements of a socialized agenda, there is no doubt they are adopting a more conservative view on tax relief, regulation and other issues.
You nailed it.
On Cavuto this week was the Dutch premier (like the president of The Netherlands), and he stated how great Dutch health care was...which was hilarious and sad to hear at the same time, it seemed it was boradcasted in Holland too and hundreds commented on it...over 90% stated how bad the Dutch health care is and how they are fed up with the waiting lists and even belgium and germany have shorter waiting times and belgium is known for having better care as Holland, but I happen to know a few rich people who all went to the USA for bypass surgeries, even though they would be able to skip waiting lists since it is always good to know certain doctors...like we did, but it is sad that only if you know certain doctor's you can skip time....even though I knew them it didn't help my dad. he had to wait for month for his 5 bypass surgery, but he was lucky he was 59 and never smoked or hardly drank any alcohol...
People clearly are stepping away from Unions, the left socialistic views.
One other example.
I have family members who live in Israel. They live in a Kibbutz and have lived outside a Kibbutz but life was even harder outside so they moved back.
it seems great, everybody works and you can switch jobs easily and if you get a child some one will take care of it in day care so you can go back to your job...no worries since utilities, etc. will all be paid by the Kibbutz and you even share a car....Sounds great....well it was for a certain amount of years, but than young people get older and want more than just what everybody else has.
The major thing what in one way surprised me and in another way didn't was when my grandmother died, she left a beautiful old historic home and she had 2 kids...so they had to split....no problem, my dad isn't very material and neither was his brother so the split was easy, but than the money had to be given to the Kibbutz to be shared by every one...According to my family others had kept it also and so they hide it also in order not to share it all....nowadays the Kibbutz isn't sharing everything as they did before because it is the caracter of the humans, that if it comes to them self, they don't want to have the same as their neighbor, you can see it all over the world...socialism never worked and it is so funny why rich people promote it after they hide a lot of money off shore and put it in real estate to pay less.
Why do Hollywood famous people come out a claim to be Dem. , just because it is better for their carreer and to gain more money
I don't think anyone is arguing they are the same. The point is the real "socialists" are being kicked to the curb across Europe.
Even if the conservative liberals retain elements of a socialized agenda, there is no doubt they are adopting a more conservative view on tax relief, regulation and other issues.
Sanrene, the Left Party "Die Linke" got more votes in 2009 than 2005. This party is even considered socialist and left by american standards.
How do you explain this?
Btw, I am NOT a fan of the left party at all, but fact is, and you can google the results of the election, that The Left Party became stronger during the last years.
And, no one wants to get rid of universal health care, don't worry.
Parties are VOTED OUT not VOTED IN. Today we vote in the other party not because they are better but purely because we are sick of the old party and would vote in a moron if it was leading the other party. Got NOTHING to do with socialism or being fed up with it.
I don't think you can speak to why people cast their vote. Your own vote, yeah. Anything other than that is pure speculation.
Obviously, the collective of the EU are sick of high taxes and government run amok. Based on the recent elections across Europe they are voting that way as well.
I don't think you can speak to why people cast their vote. Your own vote, yeah. Anything other than that is pure speculation.
Obviously, the collective of the EU are sick of high taxes and government run amok. Based on the recent elections across Europe they are voting that way as well.
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I don't think you can speak to why people cast their vote. Your own vote, yeah. Anything other than that is pure speculation.
Obviously, the collective of the EU are sick of high taxes and government run amok. Based on the recent elections across Europe they are voting that way as well.
If he/she cannot speak to why people cast their vote then neither can you and your conclusion is, therefore, without merit. As you say, "pure speculation".
Sauce for the Goose etc., etc.
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