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what I find "interesting" is that there was a certain party of people that when Bush was saying that Iran was trying to get nukes, said he lies....now that President Obama has said the same things, will that 'group' at least say Bush was correct?????
Actually Bush said Iran had suspended their nuke program.
For 10 years the Pahlavi Family of the former Shah, have been working the cocktail circuit convincing the rich and powerful that the Iranian people will welcome them back with open arms. Just like Chalabi in Iraq and Karzai in Afghanistan that seems to be how you get the Americans to back a "regime change". We've even been supporting their caviar habit while they wait to reinstall big oil.
Don't worry the American people are dumb enough to follow the piper one more time
We are not going to war with Iran. We already have 2 "wars for life" going on now. Nobody is STUPID enough to start number 3. So if it comes to it, we are just going to have to live with Iran having nukes. Of course if they should ever decide to use them, they will be destroyed in about 20 minutes.
If we invade Iran, than we can connect the other two wars and call it 1 big war.
We are not going to war with Iran. We already have 2 "wars for life" going on now. Nobody is STUPID enough to start number 3. So if it comes to it, we are just going to have to live with Iran having nukes. Of course if they should ever decide to use them, they will be destroyed in about 20 minutes.
Exactly. And, in addition, we simply do not have enough troops to invade Iran. We would need to draft a lot of kids to be able to do that which would be political suicide for the government.
The alternatives are to bomb the installations and maybe institute a naval blockade. But could we really protect our ships from land based attack and could we make sure that Iran did not close the Straits of Hormuz the consequences of which would be very serious.
There is a reason that Bush/Cheney did not attack Iran. We can all question their other decisions but they were not stupid enough to start a war they could not win. And neither is Obama.
Actually Bush said Iran had suspended their nuke program.
you sure about that?????
Bush's Lies About Iran Are Getting Bigger and Scarier
Bush levels dubious Iran nuclear arms charge
By AFP
WASHINGTON, Aug 6 (AFP) Aug 06, 2007
US President George W. Bush charged Monday that Iran has openly declared that it seeks nuclear weapons -- an inaccurate accusation at a time of sharp tensions between Washington and Tehran.
"It's up to Iran to prove to the world that they're a stabilizing force as opposed to a destabilizing force. After all, this is a government that has proclaimed its desire to build a nuclear weapon," he said during a joint press conference with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.
But Iran has repeatedly said that its nuclear program, which is widely believed in the West to be cover for an effort to develop atomic weapons, is for civilian purposes.
Asked to provide examples of Tehran openly declaring that it seeks atomic weapons, White House officials contacted by AFP said that Bush was referring to Iran's defiance of international calls to freeze sensitive nuclear work.
They explained that he was referring to Tehran's uranium enrichment -- a process that can yield nuclear bomb material -- and resulting worries by the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
"After keeping their nuclear program secret for a decade, the Iranian government has refused the offers of the international community to provide nuclear energy and continues to flout the inspectors of the IAEA," said national security spokesman Gordon Johndroe.
"Unfortunately, their intentions seem clear," Johndroe said.
so you tell me.....when Bush was saying that Iran "" seeks nuclear weapons ""and the left was saying it was a lie..didnt happen???? are you saying that because Obama says it then if must NOT be a lie?????
my point is that in our little left-vs-right world we sit here DIVIDED and spew insults at each other, when we could work TOGETHER and even COMPLEMENT each other at times
Honestly, it's times like this in which I miss Ronald Reagan. Even Bush waffled on Iran and did nothing. Reagan's philosophy was to send the message early. You don't have to engage in a full fledged war but you can use military might to send a message such as bombing. We could have done the same with Iran and had a weapons inspection and then threatened with military force if they did not comply. If they don't comply, you send the message with some quick bombings. We don't need to occupy the country or engage in a long ground war. These nations are becoming more confident knowing the U.S. is to afraid to do anything at all due to P.C. reasons and the fact that we are are already extended military-wise.
Maybe the right is trying to fire up fear and rage to goad the sheep into clamoring for an attack, thus ideally making Obama look like an unAmurrican wussy for being sane...just in time for 2010 election season.
Israel chomping at the bit ? "come on Uncle, lemme whack 'em." I don't see how the US could stomach another war, or pay for it, but the insane recliner chair warriors would love to see Iran attacked, even without the hyped up propaganda.
The alternatives are to bomb the installations and maybe institute a naval blockade. But could we really protect our ships from land based attack and could we make sure that Iran did not close the Straits of Hormuz the consequences of which would be very serious.
I see this as a most likely scenario. We could conceivably occupy a section of Iranian territory, as a buffer from direct, land based interference with the straits. Early on, we may suffer some shipping casualties, but those Iranian assets capable of projecting that type of threat would be quickly (probably within the first 72 hours)suppressed.
We would then settle in for decades of Palestinian style guerilla attacks across a DMZ of some sort, as the Iranians try to oust the invaders from "their" soil.....assuming all of this could be accomplished before they get a nuclear weapon.
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