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Old 09-29-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Well, there aren't as many caskets coming back, now. If warmongers add the new troop numbers, all that could change. Where are all of the "sacrifices" (as Bush calls them) going to come from ? Not too many young healthy vibrant people wanting to die any more for this unwinnable war.
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Well, there aren't as many caskets coming back, now.
There's plenty. There have been more deaths in Afghanistan then ever lately.
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:29 PM
 
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Remember the controversy over the Pentagon policy of not allowing the press to take pictures of the flag-draped caskets of American war dead as they arrived in the United States? Critics accused President Bush of trying to hide the terrible human cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"These young men and women are heroes," Vice President Biden said in 2004, when he was senator from Delaware. "The idea that they are essentially snuck back into the country under the cover of night so no one can see that their casket has arrived, I just think is wrong."

With casualties mounting, the debate over U.S. policy in Afghanistan is sharp and heated. The number of arrivals at Dover is increasing. But the journalists who once clamored to show the true human cost of war are nowhere to be found.

Without Bush, media lose interest in war caskets | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Without-Bush-media-lose-interest-in-war-caskets-8310113-62427012.html - broken link)
The Associated Press is supposed to be notorious for its liberal bias. And where's the local Faux reporter?

I dont understand your thread title, "Liberal Media."
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:43 PM
 
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To start with. I agree with the OP that it is rather odd that the media no longer wishes to make a big deal out of filming caskets... Is it just old hat now? Or is it because of the regime change? I don't really know.

That said, are some of you berrating the lack of war protests and such SO stupid as to not understand the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan?

Why many felt that Iraq was a meaningless war and simply a Bush vs. Saddam d***-waving contest that served no TRUE purpose for our country?? Afghanistan was the REAL war we needed to be fighting but now it's looking like even that may be a lost cause.

A large portion of the blame for THAT can be put on the war in Iraq taking our eye off the ball of what we SHOULD have been doing all along in Afghanistan... I for one, agree that NOW we just need to get the freak out of there.... It's too late. We let the Taliban come back and we won't be defeating them a second time.......

But blaming Obama for that??? Nothing short of PURE ignorance..
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:55 PM
 
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"YOU" ????? YOU don't use it???? WHAT????

Why aren't you addressing the media???

You think the photographers are in here???Wow, that's just wacko!!!

Or did you think CD posters should run to Dover and start taking photos...THAT'S even NUTTIER!!!

Mental disorder???? WHO has a mental disorder?????


OK, how's this...YOU didn't object when Bush said no photos so you should be happy that the "liberal media" is listening.


AND , if BUSH/CHENEY hadn't started this war we wouldn't N E E D photos of dead soldier's caskets...
Ummm...you took my post a little too literally. The liberal media caters to liberal left ideology. They cried and whined about it because it pulled on the knee-jerk strings of its audience. You (yes you) guys fell hook, line, and sinker for it. So Obama listened to you and repealed the policy. Now that the policy is in place, and photo's of the war dead are available, you don't even care anymore.

It's time to quit faking like it wasn't a referendum against George W. Bush. Crocodile tears for our nation's heroes are shameful, and your (yes your) collective disinterest now that Bush is gone is downright wrong.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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There's plenty. There have been more deaths in Afghanistan then ever lately.
Yes, more deaths in Afghanistan have occurred recently, however those deaths haven't approached the deaths in Iraq. Also the protests which occurred during the Bush administration were about Iraq, not Afghanistan, on top of that the protests stopped well before Election Day.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:24 PM
 
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Ummm...you took my post a little too literally."""


NO, I took it exactly the way you posted it.


"""" The liberal media caters to liberal left ideology. They cried and whined about it because it pulled on the knee-jerk strings of its audience. You (yes you) guys fell hook, line, and sinker for it. So Obama listened to you and repealed the policy. Now that the policy is in place, and photo's of the war dead are available, you don't even care anymore.

It's time to quit faking like it wasn't a referendum against George W. Bush. Crocodile tears for our nation's heroes are shameful, and your (yes your) collective disinterest now that Bush is gone is downright wrong.
"""you don't even care anymore."""

post proof....you can't because there is none....just another chance for a neocon to whine about the "liberal media"...YOU didn't care when Bush forbade it....why do you care now???
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Well, there aren't as many caskets coming back, now. If warmongers add the new troop numbers, all that could change. Where are all of the "sacrifices" (as Bush calls them) going to come from ? Not too many young healthy vibrant people wanting to die any more for this unwinnable war.
Really?

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So far this month, 38 American troops have been killed in Afghanistan. For all of 2009, the number is 220 -- more than any other single year and more than died in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004 combined.
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the first arrival in which press coverage was allowed -- there were representatives of 35 media outlets on hand to cover the story.

Fast forward to today. On Sept. 2, when the casket bearing the body of Marine Lance Cpl. David Hall, of Elyria, Ohio, arrived at Dover, there was just one news outlet -- the Associated Press -- there to record it.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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To start with. I agree with the OP that it is rather odd that the media no longer wishes to make a big deal out of filming caskets... Is it just old hat now? Or is it because of the regime change? I don't really know.
A democrat is now in office. Before, the media was completely invested in seeing he get there.
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Old 09-29-2009, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Are some people on this thread really suggesting that the media publish pictures and give coverage to caskets arriving home, even if the families have decided that they do not want media coverage? Though there isn't a ban anymore, the decision on whether or not the media is given access to these sad events is left to each family. Certainly the press should respect these families' decisions. Wouldn't you agree?

Gates Lifts Dover Ban - ABC News
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