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Old 09-30-2009, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I read somewhere that people who have gotten the flu vaccination are twice as likely to get the H1N1. I have never had a flu shot and never plan to. AND will never get the H1N1 shot.
I don't know where that "somewhere" would be. Could you provide a link?
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:20 AM
 
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I read somewhere that people who have gotten the flu vaccination are twice as likely to get the H1N1. I have never had a flu shot and never plan to. AND will never get the H1N1 shot.
"read somewhere?" right...
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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here is what the insert has to say about the majority of possible side effects listed in the prisonplanet article listed above:

The following additional adverse reactions have been reported during post-approval use of FLUVIRIN. Because these reactions are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequency or establish a causal relationship to vaccine exposure. Adverse events described here are included because: a) they represent reactions which are known to occur following immunizations generally or influenza immunizations specifically; b) they are potentially serious; or c) the frequency of reporting.

also, i was wrong, guillain-barre syndrome (gbs) is listed as a potential side effect. besides anaphylaxis, this is probably the most serious thing that could happen, so the insert discusses it a little further. the chances of getting gbs from a flu shot are literally one in a million.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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According to a dr at Children's Mercy, my kids & I all had H1N1 last week. Was just like any other flu here. I don't see the need for a vaccine for ANY flu, when the side affects are possibly worse than the actual flu.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Life is a side effect. Still, I don't want the shot. At least with the flu only 2 things are possible. You get sick, and recover, or you get sick, and die. When they give you a shot, they pull the plunger back to see if they hit a blood supply. If so, they try again in another spot.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:17 AM
 
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A 12-year-old girl in our community died Monday from H1N1. She felt bad on Thursday, was hospitalized Saturday, declared brain dead on Sunday and died on Monday. She had no known underlying health problems.

Everyone has to make his or her own decisions about vaccines, but no one should be cavalier about this flu.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:21 AM
 
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We have had several deaths in our community as well. While I agree with the "make your own decision" model, I think it needs to be an informed decision. If I had all day to research this I could probably tell you with certainty that no one ever died from a flu shot, but I don't, so I can just say, based on almost 40 years of immunization experience, I don't think so.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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We have had several deaths in our community as well. While I agree with the "make your own decision" model, I think it needs to be an informed decision. If I had all day to research this I could probably tell you with certainty that no one ever died from a flu shot, but I don't, so I can just say, based on almost 40 years of immunization experience, I don't think so.
I think that people either became ill or died from getting the vaccine during the last swine flu epidemic--which I believe was in the 70's. GBS was a problem with that vaccine as well. But you have to do a risk/benefit analysis. The chance of dying from this flu is small, but real. The chance of becoming ill from the vaccine is small, but I don't believe any deaths have been associated with the current H1N1 vaccine--but it's very new.

People have to look at all the available information and make the best decision for themselves and their families. Thinking about someone having to bury their 12-year-old daughter will most likely make me get the vaccine for my daughter and me as soon as it is offered.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:56 AM
 
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I think that people either became ill or died from getting the vaccine during the last swine flu epidemic--which I believe was in the 70's. GBS was a problem with that vaccine as well. But you have to do a risk/benefit analysis. The chance of dying from this flu is small, but real. The chance of becoming ill from the vaccine is small, but I don't believe any deaths have been associated with the current H1N1 vaccine--but it's very new.

People have to look at all the available information and make the best decision for themselves and their families. Thinking about someone having to bury their 12-year-old daughter will most likely make me get the vaccine for my daughter and me as soon as it is offered.
Three people, I believe elderly, died within days of receiving their swine flu vaccine in the 70s. These deaths have not been causally linked to the vaccine. There is a new agency this year to monitor people who have heart attacks, etc right after getting the vaccine, because these things happen every day. The risk of Guillan-Barre is hard enough to calculate, because it is very small. It is believed that the risk increased at most by 1 person per 100,000 from the vaccine in the 70s.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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According to a dr at Children's Mercy, my kids & I all had H1N1 last week. Was just like any other flu here. I don't see the need for a vaccine for ANY flu, when the side affects are possibly worse than the actual flu.
I disagree, especially with children and elderly - who are most likely to be seriously impacted by the flu. Kids can die. My daughter has been vaccinated every year since she was born, and I shall continue to do so. Side effects or no, I'd hate her to be one of the 36,000 who die each year from flu complications.
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