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Anyway, I can't think of too many things worse than a bunch of women who don't want to be pregnant being forced to carry and deliver a bunch of unwanted babies. I'm really not seeing the upside to that for anyone.
You're right about ectopic, I asumed it was understood that my comments were regarding a "normal" pregnancy, my bad. What bleeding disorders are cured by aborting a baby? What cancer is cured by aborting a baby? Seriously? Thanks
I think that having your limbs torn from you, appendage by appendage, or being burned to death by chemicals, or having your brain stem pierced and the contents vacuumed out; all without anesthesia, would be worse than what you described, but that's just me. We have become a self absorbed, narcissistic, "me first" society, and we will pay for it.
When our wives and sisters die due to previously diagnosed conditions in their pregnancy and their lives could be spared with a controlled termination, lets pretend the statistics are a left-wing conspiracy.
I am against legalized abortion as we now have it. HOWEVER, I think abortion should NEVER be withheld as a choice for a female IF: The females life is in danger or the female is a victim of rape or molestation. Many of us just object to wholesale abortions where someone decides to terminate because it will inconvenience them or they just decide for whatever reason they don't want the child.
I am against legalized abortion as we now have it. HOWEVER, I think abortion should NEVER be withheld as a choice for a female IF: The females life is in danger or the female is a victim of rape or molestation. Many of us just object to wholesale abortions where someone decides to terminate because it will inconvenience them or they just decide for whatever reason they don't want the child.
Can you not see the difference?
I thought I was in favor of abortion only in the case of rape, and then I actually thought about it, instead of parroting what I had heard others say. I'm pro-life, because I believe all life is sacred and life is a gift from God. If I really believed that, why would a horrific crime, the result of which produces a life, reduce said life, simply because of unfortunate circumstances? If all life is precious, then all life is precious. Besides, how would murdering a pre born baby, who had nothing to do with how he/she was conceived, relive the pain of the horrific and cowardly act of rape?
What medical diagnosis is cured by killing a pre born baby?
Grave EPH gestosis, eclampsia, ileus in pregnancy, acute liver atrophy, serious pyelonephritidis and pyelonephrosis, trauma, advanced coronary diseases, cardiopathia, some kidney disorders, severe psychiatric illness, and thromboembolic tendencies. Certain malignant processes, specifically of reproductive organs, may be accelerated due to hormonal increases during pregnancy.
These conditions are not cured by abortion, but can be significantly affected by pregnancy. Bear in mind the severity of illness, or the required treatment for these disorders can have a devastating effect on the unborn child, especially psychotherapeutic drugs, and obviously chemotherapeutic agents. And I know someone is bound to say the alternative 100% guarantee of death by abortion is a worse alternative, I do hear you loud and clear. The effects of some of these diseases and treatments on the fetus though should not be dismissed. And that is not addressing the psychosocial implications of these illnesses or treatments on the mother and family.
I am against legalized abortion as we now have it. HOWEVER, I think abortion should NEVER be withheld as a choice for a female IF: The females life is in danger or the female is a victim of rape or molestation. Many of us just object to wholesale abortions where someone decides to terminate because it will inconvenience them or they just decide for whatever reason they don't want the child.
Can you not see the difference?
As it would appear you have not read my previous posts, I will repeat myself. I personally would not have an elective abortion unless under extreme circumstances. I do not agree with people using abortion as a means of contraception. I wish that people would take much more responsibility for their reproductive health and well being. This discussion however is not about what I would or would not do. This is about women being able to make decisions about what happens to their own bodies. I have read time and time again on this thread people stating that she has no right to make decisions that harm her unborn child, but as that child can not survive without her body, she is the one who should make those decisions. Hopefully there is a father involved in that decision making too. That is the bottom line. Either you believe a person should be entitled to make decisions for themselves, or you think they should not be afforded that liberty.
Grave EPH gestosis, eclampsia, ileus in pregnancy, acute liver atrophy, serious pyelonephritidis and pyelonephrosis, trauma, advanced coronary diseases, cardiopathia, some kidney disorders, severe psychiatric illness, and thromboembolic tendencies. Certain malignant processes, specifically of reproductive organs, may be accelerated due to hormonal increases during pregnancy.
These conditions are not cured by abortion, but can be significantly affected by pregnancy. Bear in mind the severity of illness, or the required treatment for these disorders can have a devastating effect on the unborn child, especially psychotherapeutic drugs, and obviously chemotherapeutic agents. And I know someone is bound to say the alternative 100% guarantee of death by abortion is a worse alternative, I do hear you loud and clear. The effects of some of these diseases and treatments on the fetus though should not be dismissed. And that is not addressing the psychosocial implications of these illnesses or treatments on the mother and family.
Then what was the point of listing them, since as you conceded, they won't be alleviated by killing a pre born baby?
As it would appear you have not read my previous posts, I will repeat myself. I personally would not have an elective abortion unless under extreme circumstances. I do not agree with people using abortion as a means of contraception. I wish that people would take much more responsibility for their reproductive health and well being. This discussion however is not about what I would or would not do. This is about women being able to make decisions about what happens to their own bodies. I have read time and time again on this thread people stating that she has no right to make decisions that harm her unborn child, but as that child can not survive without her body, she is the one who should make those decisions. Hopefully there is a father involved in that decision making too. That is the bottom line. Either you believe a person should be entitled to make decisions for themselves, or you think they should not be afforded that liberty.
An infant can not survive on it's own, neither can someone on life support, kidney dialysis, iron lung, pacemaker, etc.
the right to choice and privacy will never be over turned. it is no ones business what a woman does when she becomes pregnant but her own. she has the right to choice no matter if you disagree with her reasoning, the timing, or that she had sex to begin with and its an easy out, it matters not. her life, her business and outsiders have no say. if she has an abortion instead of taking the pregnancy to term the whys and whens are between her and her doctor. against abortion? don't have one. woman have the right to reproductive freedom.
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