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Obama has no grand strategy to win the war in Afghanistan, nor even a strategy to achieve a peace-with-honor pullout. He has only his Chicago tactics, which he will use to destroy any military man or woman who so much as hints to the American public that Obama's Afghan plan is flawed.
So he is selling out both Petraeus and McChrystal and not listening to his own Sec of Def Gibbs.
What will he do if both Generals resign because Obama is tossing them under the bus?
Who will he lean on for help then? Or is this all on purpose?
Obama has no grand strategy to win the war in Afghanistan, nor even a strategy to achieve a peace-with-honor pullout. He has only his Chicago tactics, which he will use to destroy any military man or woman who so much as hints to the American public that Obama's Afghan plan is flawed.
So he is selling out both Petraeus and McChrystal and not listening to his own Sec of Def Gibbs.
What will he do if both Generals resign because Obama is tossing them under the bus?
Who will he lean on for help then? Or is this all on purpose?
There is no way of winning in Afghanistan. To nation build would take forty years or more. The concentration needs to be in Pakistan as that is where Al Queida is operating from. The Taliban is a separate issue. We have been bogged down there long enough. Obama is doing the right thing to reassess the issue and I do not care what other motivations you think he might have. We have thrown enough taxpayer money and American lives into that pit.
Obama has no grand strategy to win the war in Afghanistan, nor even a strategy to achieve a peace-with-honor pullout. He has only his Chicago tactics, which he will use to destroy any military man or woman who so much as hints to the American public that Obama's Afghan plan is flawed.
So he is selling out both Petraeus and McChrystal and not listening to his own Sec of Def Gibbs.
What will he do if both Generals resign because Obama is tossing them under the bus?
Who will he lean on for help then? Or is this all on purpose?
Neither General was ever given an objective definition of "win".
This thread is just another comment, which would be better placed in one of the numerous threads the OP has authored on the very same topic. Would it be too inconvenient to merge with with one of the others.
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Obama has no grand strategy to win the war in Afghanistan, nor even a strategy to achieve a peace-with-honor pullout. [u]He has only his Chicago tactics, which he will use to destroy any military man or woman who so much as hints to the American public that Obama's Afghan plan is flawed.
Gee, there's been NO strategy in place the last eight years to 'win' this war that we coild continue with? And NOW you expect a 'plan' in way less than a year? You must think the man a genius! Imagine that
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So he is selling out both Petraeus and McChrystal and not listening to his own Sec of Def Gibbs.
Given Petraeus at one time gave glowing reports of how well the training of Iraqi troops was going, which to be charitable was a loooooooooong stretch of the truth, I think the man needs to be questioned, not accepted at face value. We don't need more Westmoreland style lies about progress in a war zone, truth would be a welcome change.
This thread is just another comment, which would be better placed in one of the numerous threads the OP has authored on the very same topic. Would it be too inconvenient to merge with with one of the others.
Well I see the Obama thinking people think alike.
Do not like the message or the facts, find a way to get rid of them both.
Stop moderating this forum with your left wing ideals of trying to control ones post and you will do just fine.
Numerous? Please tell me what numerous means to you?
Do you want to pull out the "numerous" left wingnuts threads on Palin, Rush, Hannity or Beck for all to see?
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Well I see the Obama thinking people think alike.
Do not like the message or the facts, find a way to get rid of them both.
The FACT is you're whining about getting a winning strategy in place in less than a year, how much whining were you doing about the lack of a winning strategy for the past eight years?
These wars are successful if they require continued military spending and the attendant corporate welfare. These wars are not about nation building they are about profit. For the warmongers the death of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Muslims is worth it to keep the money train running in their direction. The Generals are colluding in this rip-off because they will receive really lucrative careers in industry or lobbying after they retire. The only way these wars can fail is if they end.
These wars are successful if they require continued military spending and the attendant corporate welfare. These wars are not about nation building they are about profit. For the warmongers the death of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Muslims is worth it to keep the money train running in their direction. The Generals are colluding in this rip-off because they will receive really lucrative careers in industry or lobbying after they retire. The only way these wars can fail is if they end.
Oh so now it is the Generals fault Obama is failing and losing a war in Afghanistan.
Nice spin.
Obama is a war monger himself so add him into the mix. Wonder if he has an Acorn office in Afghanistan yet?
Believe me if there were money to made on this war, Obamas dirty hands would be all over it selling out every single America he could find.
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Oh so now it is the Generals fault Obama is failing and losing a war in Afghanistan.
Whose fault is the lack of progress in eight years? Or will you continue to conveniently ignore that little fact?
Nice spin indeed.
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And NOW you expect a 'plan' in way less than a year? You must think the man a genius! Imagine that 
