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Yes, they should completely forgive 142 37.97%
They should forgive but dont forget 183 48.93%
No, they shouldnt forgive America 49 13.10%
Voters: 374. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-30-2012, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Forgive who? The perps are long dead. Forget? Never..because the past has bearing on the present. It's American history not AA history. If it's irrelevant and we need to forget about it then all of American history is irrelevant.
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:37 AM
 
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Nobody alive today was a slave or a slave holder in America.

In fact, my family was still in Europe for another 30 years or so after slavery ended.

Forget about it!
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:02 AM
 
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Actually, given the US systems of oppression for African Americans, I don't see that much has actually changed, other than the fact that we no longer chain them or put them in force labor. We do deny them a good education, access to livable wages, and shun them from large segments of our communities.
Hogwash.

Nobody denies anybody an education. Everyone is eligible for grants and student loans. There are, in fact, scholarships and race based entrance criteria which advantage blacks. And if you still can't get in, you can go to a community college regardless of your high school records. And community colleges offer remedial classes to bring you up to speed and then provide a means of transferring to a university to complete a 4 year degree.

The only people who don't have a college education in America are those who weren't willing to put forth the effort to get one. There are zero, none, nada racial barriers to becoming a degreed professional in American society.

The same goes for other aspects of society. Not only is it illegal to discriminate against blacks, and not only do people actually sue and win using those laws, but there are programs specifically designed to promote blacks.

You want to say the lifestyle of blacks is no different in 2012 than it was in 1812? That's just patently false.

And by saying it, you incite resentment and promote victimization myths that end up perpetuating the very racial animosty you are decrying.

The opportunities are out there for anybody to be a success, but they won't even look for those opportunities as long as people like you are out there telling them they might as well be slaves.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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Actually, given the US systems of oppression for African Americans, I don't see that much has actually changed, other than the fact that we no longer chain them or put them in force labor. We do deny them a good education, access to livable wages, and shun them from large segments of our communities.


Where does this happen?

How is it carried out?

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Old 03-30-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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I think they should try to be as successful as they can be in the country they are lucky to be living in. Maybe they can do as well as the Asians who are doing well in their first generation here.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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Yes, of course they should.

It can do nothing healthy or positive for them to be hating a bunch of dead Americans for having been supportive of and/or owners of slaves many years ago.

Unforgiveness, this holding of hate inside us is likely to be a cause of disease. This is true for every human. I am convinced that God doesn't want us to forgive just for our soul and eternity, but for the condition of our psyches and bodies right now.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I think they should for sure forgive but don't forget.

Simple because if we forget, history may have a tendency to repeat itself.

Let this be a lesson to us all.


By history repeating itself, I assume you mean entire classifications of persons being declared less than human and all sorts of rationalizations coming into play to defend the bigoted reasoning behind it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:41 PM
 
Location: California
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Default In your opinion, should African Americans forgive America for slavery?

In my opinion they should just get over it and live in the present time.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:41 PM
 
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I think everyone should make the most of the opportunities that are before them.

It does them no good to hold on to the slavery issue. It ended long ago.

The question may as well be asked.... should the southern states forgive the northern states?
Should the southern states forgive the northern states? Wth?
No,anyone who fought for the confederates or northern states are dead.

Its no good to hold onto the hatred of the north from some southerners.
Let it go,you were never in the war. Geez

And please put that stupid ass flag into the garbage,and light it on fire.
Tired of seeing that flag,I want to see the American flag.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:43 PM
 
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In my opinion they should just get over it and live in the present time.
Yes,that's true.
But can we also tell those who fly the Confederate flag they lost 147 years ago?
It ain't coming back,face the facts.
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