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Old 10-07-2009, 05:09 AM
 
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more blah, blah rhetoric.....

For people who do not believe in GOD they sure spend a tremendous amount of time trying to get them out of sight. They need to work on their own issues and not worry about a battle they will not win.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:11 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I'm torn on this issue. Its clear that the "ten commandments" are part of religious laws. However, its clear that they are also in line with many of the laws that we hold true.


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Honestly, how many people see the 10 commandments before they go to court? I'd like to see a picture of them, that might help me make the decision. If its just a small part of the structure, no biggy. If it were a huge massive looming thing, yeah, I'd probably say remove it.
Why? Does the possibility that God actually exists scare you? That's what bothers these people.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:20 AM
 
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Ever read the Constitution?

Tell us how WELL the "My God is better than your God" crap has worked out in history if you really want to talk about needless killing.
Yes I have. Have you? Have you ever read the Declaration of Independence? Do you understand either of these Founding Documents?

Have you ever read the Northwest Ordinance, another of our Founding Documents?
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Art. 3. Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.
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Tell us how WELL the "My God is better than your God" crap has worked out in history if you really want to talk about needless killing.
Let's just pretend for a minute that no man had ever heard of "God", and there was no "religion" in the world. Do you think for a minute that there would be no wars and killing? If you do, you are immensely naive. But some actually believe that with out any religion, the world would be some kind of utopia.

How foolish.

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Old 10-07-2009, 05:20 AM
 
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Why? Does the possibility that God actually exists scare you? That's what bothers these people.


There are more than 5,000 names for God in recorded history. What bothers rational people is some mere mortal, with NO way of knowing for sure, claiming ONLY their own personal God is the TRUE one.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:23 AM
 
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There are more than 5,000 names for God in recorded history. What bothers rational people is some mere mortal, with NO way of knowing for sure, claiming ONLY their own personal God is the TRUE one.


I am rational and know full well that my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is REAL!!!!

My name can also be translated into MANY different names as well, depending on the language it is spoken in.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:24 AM
 
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Yes I have. Have you? Have you ever read the Declaration of Independence? Do you understand either of these Founding Documents?

Have you ever read the Northwest Ordinance, another of our Founding Documents?



Freedom of religion, also held to mean freedom from religion is the one that counts.

Religion is a creation of man, it's fact that some men lie cheat and steal to better themselves, leaving relgion open to all of man's flaws. It's unnecessary to conform to someone else's ideas to believe in God
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:25 AM
 
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Another Uptighty-Righty unfamiliar with the Constitution are ya?


I think that if you are going to apply this to the seperation of church and state, then you should also interpret our founding fathers teachings the correct way towards all of our 1st 10 Amendments.

dont just apply it just for one, apply it towards all of the original amendments.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:27 AM
 
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I think that if you are going to apply this to the seperation of church and state, then you should also interpret our founding fathers teachings the correct way towards all of our 1st 10 Amendments.

dont just apply it just for one, apply it towards all of the original amendments.


When have I not?
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:29 AM
 
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Freedom of religion, also held to mean freedom from religion is the one that counts.

Religion is a creation of man, it's fact that some men lie cheat and steal to better themselves, leaving relgion open to all of man's flaws. It's unnecessary to conform to someone else's ideas to believe in God



No one is forcing anyone to conform to anything. But this is in fact a Nation created on Christian principle(s). People need to stop wasting time trying to alter the original meaning and intents of the founding fathers to accommodate their agendas of today, it just isn't working.
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:29 AM
 
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I am rational and know full well that my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is REAL!!!!

My name can also be translated into MANY different names as well, depending on the language it is spoken in.

So, all the mortals who trod the earth BCE are SOL?
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