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Old 10-09-2009, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I think the Saudi Intelligence service was well aware of what was going on and their failure to inform us was enemy action. I apply the same to the Israeli intelligence system. They knew but did not tell us. This was also enemy action.

The failure of our CIA to be aware of the plot was completely indefensible incompetance. If the CIA knew and withheld the information from the administration for political reasons was treason and the responsible people should be investigated and prosecuted as needed.
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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The whole truther thing goes hand-in-hand with Bush Derangement Syndrome. IMO if Gore had been president there never would have been a truther movement.
Of course there would've--it just would've been a mirror image on the right side of the spectrum. Look at some of the "Obama wants to annihilate America and all Western Civilization" threads to get a flavor of it.

(In point of fact, there are both right-wing and left-wing truthers.)
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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Honesty;I thnik there are the dummies with a boring life . Then I thnik there are those with warped politcal motives and then those that profit from books and such.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:29 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Is believeing 9/11 was an inside job a mental disorder?
Ha ha... great question.

I see a lot of "evidence" on the 9/11 Truther posts of how the cell phone technology (of being able to call someone up from a plane) did not exist in Sep 2001. I am no tech buff.... but certainly proving this theory wrong would punch some gaping holes in the Truther argument.

I think some folks are just intrigued by Conspiracy theories. The JFK assassination DEFINITELY has a ton of unanswered questions. I personally think there is something fishy with this whole Swine Flu "panic". The 9/11 one though is a bit too far out for me.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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In order to drum up support for invading Iraq, something horrific had to happen. Bush didn't have support for that prior to 911. Am I saying that Bush caused 911 ? No, he's too dumb.

But an "inside job" doesn't have to come from inside the White House. I find it impossible to believe that the jets were flown with such precision by pilots who were the laughingstock at flight school. I wonder how many people could fly an actual jet into the Pentagon ? you know, average schmoes with short stints on flight simulators. Fly it into the emptiest part of the Pentagon, not the "big wigs" area. Bushy boy got his war, and had many more than 3 thousand lives obliterated. Iraqis didn't cause 911. Still, many people didn't care about that detail. They just wanted to see the shock and awe on TV.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Partisanship Is An Intellectual/Emotional Handicap
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I know that there are a lot of conspiracies out there but if someone actually believes 9/11 was an inside job, is this a mental disorder?

It seems to me that these folks live completely detached from reality and don't have the ability of logical deduction. Would this qualify for a mental disorder?
Is Partisan Loyalty in the face of decades of destruction to this country, a mental disorder?

Are religious beliefs a mental disorder? Especially those who support Religious beliefs being integrated with politics, laws and military?

Is teabagging a menatl disorder?

Is believing in and supporting Sarah Palin a mental disorder? This one I can answer for you. Most certainly it is. Absolutely.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Let's do this the simplistic American way...there are only two kinds of people in America; the Right Wing, and those with mental deficiencies.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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I know that there are a lot of conspiracies out there but if someone actually believes 9/11 was an inside job, is this a mental disorder?

It seems to me that these folks live completely detached from reality and don't have the ability of logical deduction. Would this qualify for a mental disorder?
I think that being a sheep is closer to a mental disorder than not believing everything that is told to you lock, stock, and barrel. Using your brain and critical thinking and coming up with your own conclusions using "logical deduction" is not a disorder.

You know, one of my FORMER female friends, who turned out to be a COMPLETE right-wing ultra-conservative fundamentalist, used to tell me that being a "liberal" was a mental disorder. Used to give me links to "prove" that. She is no longer my friend. I will not be "friends" with someone who labels whole groups of people as having "mental disorders" just because they don't think the way that she does. She is against pretty much everything in our society, sees black helicopters hovering above her house, conflict and government take-over everywhere she turns, lives in her own hermetically sealed world, has broken relations with her own parents, has cut off her kids from seeing their own grandparents (and vice versa) because she is that deeply entrenched in her way of thinking. Yet, other people are the ones with the "mental disorder."

And what is "reality" to you? The "reality" that is painted to you by someone else? (the news, commentators, etc.). We have found out over and over again that the government was lying to the American people on many occasions, always denying the accusations until it could not deny anymore, then when the evidence became overwhelmingly clear, they only then admit to wrong-doing and then "apologize." I don't know for sure the "truth" about 9/11, but to call it a "detachment from reality" just because some people aren't buying everything that they've been told at face value is really condenscending (in my opinion).

I'm okay with people thinking different things; at least they're still thinking vs. being led blindly by someone else. I don't need a shepherd to lead me around; I can lead my ownself around. As I said already, it is very condenscending (and dangerous) to label someone as having a mental disorder because there were times in world history that people were indeed hospitalized, tortured, and even murdered, for thinking and going against the grain of accepted thought.
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Old 10-09-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Is believeing 9/11 was an inside job a mental disorder?
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Old 10-09-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I know that there are a lot of conspiracies out there but if someone actually believes 9/11 was an inside job, is this a mental disorder?

It seems to me that these folks live completely detached from reality and don't have the ability of logical deduction. Would this qualify for a mental disorder?
Nah, just total gullibility. I wish I had a complete list of them so I could perform my elevator pitch for the bridge I have on sale.
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