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Old 10-11-2009, 01:35 AM
 
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Both of these parties are corrupt.

Both are leading the USA into a very bad direction.

Both want to limit personal freedoms and control the populace.

Both are just puppets, actors, con artists.

Both are complete sellouts.

If you support either of these parties. You are contributing to the downfall of the American way.

Liberals, do not fall for the Obama deception. Do not believe the hype that Obama will save you. He will not. He can not. The Democrats are just puppets.

Conservatives. Realize the Republicans these days are also in on the socialist agenda which you claim to be against. The Republicn Party has been taken over by Neo-Conservative philosophy, which is similar to fascism. Why would any true conservative support the Republicans after what happened during the Bush administraion? Can't you see what they are doing?

Go third party. Libertarian, Green, Socialist, Constitionalist..... anything. We need to get away from the two-party system. It will be our downfall.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Ron Paul was our best shot for fixing many of America's ill's in this last election. I truly believe that many people do not realize that there are more than two parties out there. If people really read up on their voting issues and the candidates, there could be some CHANGE for the better. What can people expect when at any given election only 50% of the population votes?
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:48 AM
 
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Ron Paul was our best shot for fixing many of America's ill's in this last election. I truly believe that many people do not realize that there are more than two parties out there. If people really read up on their voting issues and the candidates, there could be some CHANGE for the better. What can people expect when at any given election only 50% of the population votes?
Exacty.

Whether you are liberal, conservative, moderate or extreme to either side. There is a third party that fits your belief system and philosophy.

The Dems and Repubs are both only good for one type of people. Very rich people. The ultra-rich are the only ones who should truely support them.

I can't believe so many working people still support these parties. Feeding the monster that will eat them.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Newark, California
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Vote for Nader 2012? That or we vote for pokemon.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:17 AM
 
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Vote for Nader 2012? That or we vote for pokemon.
Whether you vote Dem or Repub, it does not matter. They are both in on the same ditry tricks behind the scenes.

Like Jesse Ventura said. "Politics is like pro wrestling. They put on a big show and act like they are fighting and doing something when the cameras are turned on. But behind the scenes they plan it all out and go laugh about it over beers aftwards, it's all staged."

Do you honestly think that the Democrats and Republicans truely hate each other and disagree? Do you honestly think they are not cutting deals behind the scenes and putting on a show in public?

Politics these days is truely like pro wrestling.

Do you realize that if 20, 30, or 40% of Americans voted third party that we could begin to destroy this corruption? We could have more accountability and more distribution of power, instead of putting enormous amounts of power in the hands of a few individuals.

I believe that US elections are rigged and our votes do not matter. There is a lot of evidence to suggest this. But people really shoul stop supporting Dems and Repubs. Stop letting them pull you around. Stop being their pissant footsoldier.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Newark, California
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I already know that politics are staged and that every word coming out of their mouths[Dem or Repub] is nothing but complete crap. Come on, What do you get when you combine the worst qualities of an Elephant and a Donkey? A lot of ****!
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:36 AM
 
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As an Independent I do not trust either party but I believe the agenda of the liberals and Democrats will destroy this country and our freedoms far faster then the Republicans. I do believe that Bush set things on motion for his cousin hussein obama. I believe he was hand picked by some inner circle of Democrats and Republicans. After all, what's the odds that Bush has a half black distant cousin that is related to both Bush and Cheney. It's all a little too weird for me.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:37 AM
 
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Well, im glad you realise this. But it seems like most people do not realise this and they actually think the Democrats and Republicans are having idealogical battes.

These idealogical battles are all staged though of course. Designed to give the illusion that we are living in a Democracy in which we have choice. But the decisions being made are being made in secret meetings with supposedly opposing sides colluding together, then people on a spectacle for the camera, all for show.

The only idealogical battles they are really having are where to spend their millions.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:49 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Both of these parties are corrupt.

Both are leading the USA into a very bad direction.

Both want to limit personal freedoms and control the populace.

Both are just puppets, actors, con artists.

Both are complete sellouts.

If you support either of these parties. You are contributing to the downfall of the American way.

Liberals, do not fall for the Obama deception. Do not believe the hype that Obama will save you. He will not. He can not. The Democrats are just puppets.

Conservatives. Realize the Republicans these days are also in on the socialist agenda which you claim to be against. The Republicn Party has been taken over by Neo-Conservative philosophy, which is similar to fascism. Why would any true conservative support the Republicans after what happened during the Bush administraion? Can't you see what they are doing?

Go third party. Libertarian, Green, Socialist, Constitionalist..... anything. We need to get away from the two-party system. It will be our downfall.

I agree with the part in bold. Obviously, the inept, regressive Republicans need to be replaced at the very least.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The primary problem is with Congress. We somehow need to get to term limits. That may cut down some of the corruption.
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