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Old 10-13-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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This is pretty screwed up.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I'd say some hunters are going to own a chunk of tribal property when the lawsuits are over. Lets see, false imprisonment, trespassing on private land (why were tribal officers there anyway), reckless endangerment, what else?

Congrats on the guys for bagging a bull, too bad all this ruins what should be a great experience.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:58 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I'd say some hunters are going to own a chunk of tribal property when the lawsuits are over. Lets see, false imprisonment, trespassing on private land (why were tribal officers there anyway), reckless endangerment, what else?

Congrats on the guys for bagging a bull, too bad all this ruins what should be a great experience.

I agree. This is screwed up, but good luck suing a tribe.
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:40 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I agree. This is screwed up, but good luck suing a tribe.
Ain't gonna happen. Tribal police are part of the BIA. They are federal government. Many of their officers are not even tribal members. Screwed up as this is, these guys will never see any satisfaction. Maybe a letter of apology, if they are lucky.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:40 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I'd say some hunters are going to own a chunk of tribal property when the lawsuits are over. Lets see, false imprisonment, trespassing on private land (why were tribal officers there anyway), reckless endangerment, what else?

Congrats on the guys for bagging a bull, too bad all this ruins what should be a great experience.

I think indian reservations are owned by the public.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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I agree. This is screwed up, but good luck suing a tribe.
Civil RIghts Act of 1871 might work, might not. Indian law is incredibly complex in this country.

But then there's the common law right when in such a situation to use force to stop the criminal official. Too late now obviously.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:06 PM
 
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I think indian reservations are owned by the public.
You think wrong.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:09 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the issue is the cops were not given verification of permission to hunt on the land and the hunters could not produce the verification. get verification in writing when you hunt on somebody's land, he said does not cut it. be ready to produce it.
how cops handle an arrest depends on how aggressive the suspect is. in this case pretty aggressive.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I think indian reservations are owned by the public.
Not even. The reservation is considered a sovereign nation, subject only to it's own laws. Hunting on tribal lands, by non tribal members, requires special permits and a separate license issued by the tribe. There is nothing 'public' about the reservations. If a tribal member commits a crime , off the reservation, and then flees to the reservation, he cannot be taken off except by tribal permission. If they decide to let the perp stay, he can't be arrested unless he leaves the reservation borders. This has happened a fair number of times. Non tribal LE cannot go onto the res unless they are invited to do so, and have no authority not granted by the tribe, the exception being state and federal highways crossing the reservation, which State Troopers and county Sheriffs can patrol and issue citations on. Reservations are, indeed, their own countries.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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how cops handle an arrest depends on how aggressive the suspect is. in this case pretty aggressive.
what indication do you have that the suspects were aggressive?
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