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Old 10-22-2009, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC
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this couldnt be further from accurate, but I havnt been able to make my case yet, I am done trying. it is rediculous to say that I condone rape.
You're condoning the company's treatment of an employee who was raped. What isn't accurate?
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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This system DOESN'T work, that's what we're saying. The company allowed this to happen repeatedly. Despite their being a clause in their contract forbidding lawsuits, that does not mean they should not take action to prevent illegal behavior simply because they cannot be sued for the same. What is so difficult to understand that they did not do what needed to be done to protect their employees??
without a doubt they should be helping authorities in EVERY way possible, but in no way should be held responsible for the actions of a few dirtbags.

Just because i dont think she should be able to SUE the company suddenly makes me the guy who "condones rape"
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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without a doubt they should be helping authorities in EVERY way possible, but in no way should be held responsible for the actions of a few dirtbags.

Just because i dont think she should be able to SUE the company suddenly makes me the guy who "condones rape"
Obviously, they are anticipating violent crimes such as rape if they have a clause about distancing themselves from it. Don't you think that they should have more stringent rules and laws for the people that they employ?
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC
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without a doubt they should be helping authorities in EVERY way possible, but in no way should be held responsible for the actions of a few dirtbags.

Just because i dont think she should be able to SUE the company suddenly makes me the guy who "condones rape"

The worst part of this entire case is that it happened to other women prior to Ms. Jones. The company, by ignoring prior reporting of rapes, is guilty of not taking any steps to prevent it from happening again. They obviously didn't go after the men who raped the first time or any of the other instances thereafter because of this idiotic clause that protected them. After all, they didn't have to worry about any money coming out of their pocket, so why spend any to keep employees safe? Now, their inaction is going to cost them dearly or at least it should.

I never said you, personally, condoned rape. I do think that if someone you loved had been treated as this woman had, you wouldn't give a damn about a contract.
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Obviously, they are anticipating violent crimes such as rape if they have a clause about distancing themselves from it. Don't you think that they should have more stringent rules and laws for the people that they employ?
there is no clause about rape. come on people! lets be realistic here.

The company is wrong for not helping authorities. they are right for standing behind teh fact that they are not responsible for her rape
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Old 10-22-2009, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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The worst part of this entire case is that it happened to other women prior to Ms. Jones. The company, by ignoring prior reporting of rapes, is guilty of not taking any steps to prevent it from happening again. They obviously didn't go after the men who raped the first time or any of the other instances thereafter because of this idiotic clause that protected them. After all, they didn't have to worry about any money coming out of their pocket, so why spend any to keep employees safe? Now, their inaction is going to cost them dearly or at least it should.

I never said you, personally, condoned rape. I do think that if someone you loved had been treated as this woman had, you wouldn't give a damn about a contract.
that statement is the problem with people. If you dont like a contract, dont sign it. nobody is forcing you! If you do sign it, it is a legal binding contract! case closed. what is a contract if people dont give a damn about it?
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Old 10-22-2009, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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...and the historical racist Jeff Sessions from Alabama just took the cake stating that these types of situations are merely "disputes." Really...brutal gang rape is just a "dispute?" That statement is beyond comical.

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Perhaps the men that voted against this need to be subjected to the same sort of 'disputes'.
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Old 10-22-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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If you want to call Dan Inouye's office to let him know how you feel about this, here is his phone # 202-224-3934. I am not posting his personal phone # but his office #.
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Old 10-22-2009, 05:32 PM
 
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there is no clause about rape. come on people! lets be realistic here.

The company is wrong for not helping authorities. they are right for standing behind teh fact that they are not responsible for her rape
When she got home and reported the rape, she was told that an arbitration clause in her contract made it impossible for her to sue Halliburton or the men who raped her. She would have to settle for binding arbitration, which meant little if any penalty to the company and no criminal penalty to the men involved.


I don't know what else to call this clause if not a CLAUSE!

Why Would United States Senators Vote to Protect Corporations Over Rape Victims?

I'll be very realistic...why is it when you are provided with information, you negate it without doing the due dilligence of researching it first? Why do you leave it up to the people that have gotten the facts straight prior to posting to provide you with proof of the accurate information?

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Old 10-22-2009, 06:31 PM
 
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If you want to call Dan Inouye's office to let him know how you feel about this, here is his phone # 202-224-3934. I am not posting his personal phone # but his office #.
Thanks
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