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Old 10-19-2009, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Coming from some a-hole who wrote a book called The Bush Tragedy, this op-ed piece means so much!
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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In my opinion, the people who cannot see for themselves the bigotry and hate pushed by FOX "News" are precisely the people FOX "News" counts on. Any examples offered that would conflict with their own twisted views would simply be ignored. So why bother?
In Faux's opinion, too. That's their market and that's who they "talk" to. Performers have to fix an image in their minds of who they're talking to in order to be convincing. They present themselves -- or, their schtick -- as a certain personality and they speak to a certain personality.

They absolutely know what they're doing -- they have it down to a science.

"examples offered that would conflict..." they hired that hapless shmoe Alan Colmes to play the part of the wussy liberal opposite Sean Hannity; actual opposing viewpoints they just shout down, if they can. Whoever's louder/gets the last word, "wins."
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Why do you say things like this? I don't take marching orders from anyone and have been able to observe independently the extreme ideological bias at Fox - both news and commentary.

It's pretty obvious to anyone without an agenda.
The "extreme" ideological bias at Fox?

Where?:

2008 election:

Negative stories about McCain: 40%
Negative stories about Obama: 40%
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Lol, the make believe newsman video, lol.
I am hoping that TYT is the make believe newsman you spoke about.

I didn't hear Cavuto say that any minority was to blame. He didn't even say that Bush told the Congress that Fannie and Freddie were going to bring us down and they sat on their hands. I am sure that Dodds and Franks didn't want to do anything about the situation.

I didn't hear him say anything about the toughs from ACORN making threats to any bankers. Do you suppose that only Fox ever said anything about that? Bush and McCain made their attempt on Fannie and Freddie in 2005 and Congress failed to act. I guess according to the Turk and the guest of Cavuto, Congress couldn't do anything. Yep, that is what the Turk was implying.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:53 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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ON the contrary,FOX is hard core American,the other 3 networks are "euro-style"...
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Any news organization that took its responsibilities seriously would take pains to cover presidential criticism fairly. It would regard doing so as itself a test of integrity. At Fox, by contrast, complaints of unfairness prompt only hoots of derision and demands for "evidence" that, when presented, is brushed off and ignored.
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Rather than in any way maturing, Fox has in recent months become more boisterous and demagogic.
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What's most distinctive about the American press is not its freedom but its century-old tradition of independence—that it serves the public interest rather than those of parties, persuasions, or pressure groups.....For Murdoch, Ailes, and company, "fair and balanced" is a necessary lie. To admit that their coverage is slanted by design would violate the American understanding of the media's role in democracy and our idea of what constitutes fair play. But it's a demonstrable deceit that no longer deserves equal time.
Why Fox News Is Un-American | Newsweek Newsweek Voices - Jacob Weisberg | Newsweek.com

Murdoch isn't an American
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:56 PM
Status: "I'm not MAGA, I'm an American!" (set 15 days ago)
 
Location: Upstate
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The "extreme" ideological bias at Fox?

Where?:

2008 election:

Negative stories about McCain: 40%
Negative stories about Obama: 40%
Sure is funny how fast the left forgets...wasn't it also proved that the bias was at the other networks? They had much higher negative stories about McCain and much higher positive stories about Obama?
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:56 PM
 
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The "extreme" ideological bias at Fox?

Where?:

2008 election:

Negative stories about McCain: 40%
Negative stories about Obama: 40%
Do you have a link for that?
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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In Faux's opinion, too. That's their market and that's who they "talk" to. Performers have to fix an image in their minds of who they're talking to in order to be convincing. They present themselves -- or, their schtick -- as a certain personality and they speak to a certain personality.

They absolutely know what they're doing -- they have it down to a science.

"examples offered that would conflict..." they hired that hapless shmoe Alan Colmes to play the part of the wussy liberal opposite Sean Hannity; actual opposing viewpoints they just shout down, if they can. Whoever's louder/gets the last word, "wins."
Performers have to fix an image in their minds of who they're talking to in order to be convincing. They present themselves -- or, their schtick -- as a certain personality and they speak to a certain personality.

Why do those words make me think of just what kind of speeches Oba mao delivered during the campaign? They even sound a lot like the ones he delivers these days. I haven't heard him talking to ACORN and SEIU like he did in 2007 and 2008 but then his speech writers aren't dummies. Those old ones were delivered before anyone knew he was going to run for President.

Actually those words sound like they can work for any politician.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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Murdoch isn't an American
"Media independence is a 20th-century innovation that has never fully taken root in many other countries that do have a free press. The Australian-British-continental model of politicized media that Murdoch has applied at Fox is un-American, so much so that he has little choice but go on denying what he's doing as he does it."

I left much of that out of the OP because I didnt want it to be [MOD CUT] for length/copyright reasons.
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