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Old 10-20-2009, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Appalachian Trail Homeless, USA
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Obama not yet sure of Afghanistan troop decision timing
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Unless the principles of community organizing are transferable to the battlefield, don't expect brilliance here. The guy has zero military experience.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:56 PM
 
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Obama is not sure of anything.

I have to admit that I'm a little surprised at his reluctance to lead. Even though I didn't vote for him and generally don't like his policies, i'm a little flummoxed that he's sitting in the back row of the classroom, instead of leading the class in discussion. Count me as one of those that thought he at least had some leadership ability (although I acknowledge he has no experience to back up that ability). I figured he'd step up to the plate once elected. I'm not seeing any indication of a true leader so far.

Thus, I am not surprised at the two steps forward, three steps back leadership style on Afghanistan.

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Old 10-20-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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Unless the principles of community organizing are transferable to the battlefield, don't expect brilliance here. The guy has zero military experience.

sorry but all US presidents do not have military experience and wars fought and the middle east are not easy as americans like to think including you.

also leaders in afghan..... ask this admin to hold off on extra troops
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:16 PM
 
Location: mancos
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relax somebody will eventually tell him what to do.at least i hope so cause otherwise he will do nothing.think he froze up on us? i mean this is a war not a social invitation
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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I guess the warmongering peanut gallery wants more blood and guts.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:22 PM
 
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Most of you couldn't find Afghanistan on a map much less name the three largest ethnic groups, so you sudden expertise in what should or shouldn't be done is more than a bit suspect.

Given that today was the first time that the Karzai government has agreed to a run-off after literally stealing millions of votes and with the run-off election yet to be scheduled, I for one would think that waiting to see if there is a legitimate government which to form a counter-insurgency effort around might be worth the wait.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread...as he saying goes.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Most of you couldn't find Afghanistan on a map much less name the three largest ethnic groups, so you sudden expertise in what should or shouldn't be done is more than a bit suspect.

Given that today was the first time that the Karzai government has agreed to a run-off after literally stealing millions of votes and with the run-off election yet to be scheduled, I for one would think that waiting to see if there is a legitimate government which to form a counter-insurgency effort around might be worth the wait.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread...as he saying goes.
i know hell i got 2 nephews over there and have a interest in making sure they are not forgoten by thier gov. screw the elections this is a war not a social invitation
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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i know hell i got 2 nephews over there and have a interest in making sure they are not forgoten by thier gov. screw the elections this is a war not a social invitation
this is war and death comes with it, hope your family makes t thru but war with countries like that wiill have no end
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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Most of you couldn't find Afghanistan on a map much less name the three largest ethnic groups, so you sudden expertise in what should or shouldn't be done is more than a bit suspect.

Given that today was the first time that the Karzai government has agreed to a run-off after literally stealing millions of votes and with the run-off election yet to be scheduled, I for one would think that waiting to see if there is a legitimate government which to form a counter-insurgency effort around might be worth the wait.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread...as he saying goes.
Even with the election results being uncertain, someone in Afghanistan is still running the show. While I think its probably prudent to *briefly* wait and see the outcome of the runoff, I don't think that political turmoil is necessarily a good enough reason to stymie operations in the country. If a huge window of opportunity were to present itself, such as a huge infusion of Pakistani troops into the mix and significant gains could be made in the fight as a result, the blame would fall on the American's for not being there to hold up its end of the bargain. Obama risks quite a bit by dragging his feet. I think the election results are merely an excuse for Obama to hesitate to make a decision in order to give him time to calculate his political capital (or risk) on the issue. Nothing more, nothing less.
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