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Old 10-24-2009, 07:24 AM
 
Location: SE Florida
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They didnt remove it, here is the 2010 census form....

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/pd...naire_Info.pdf
The race question allows you to select one or more boxes. I think that's a good way to handle it.

When will the packets be sent out?
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Question #9 is the most horribly worded mess I've ever seen. They ask to specify "other Asian", and split it into groups based on modern national borders. Yet, they just accept "White" as uniformly, people from Iceland, Egypt, and presumably, Bolivia. Even though a huge majority from Bolivia (and Mexico) are "Native American" with almost no European ancestry.

Asian Indian is one category (all of whom are as White Caucasian as a Norwegian), and Pakistani is "other Asian". But the only difference between the two is their religion and the alphabet they use to write a common language, and yet they are differentiated under "Race".

In my opinion, they should abolish the use of the word 'race' and instead use "ancestral identity". Which is really the only thing they are fishing for. They want to know how you self-identify, not what you really are.
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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The race question allows you to select one or more boxes. I think that's a good way to handle it.

When will the packets be sent out?
March of 2010
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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Just stumbled on this thread. Interesting they have a law that prohibits asking anything about religion. Is it possible to check every race and also check Some Other Race and write in "human" for Question 9?
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Keep it for sure.
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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They didnt remove it, here is the 2010 census form....

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/pd...naire_Info.pdf
Are they doing this for all or doing this and a short form ( we got the short in 2000)
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:51 PM
 
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They didnt remove it, here is the 2010 census form....

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/pd...naire_Info.pdf
Talked about this to my SIL and her motrher... about how the Hispanics are counted. My SIL is Cuban, born here, and white.... her opinion of this is that this question is to look to where illegals are so they -- so illegals get more represetation.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Hades
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Question #9 is the most horribly worded mess I've ever seen. They ask to specify "other Asian", and split it into groups based on modern national borders. Yet, they just accept "White" as uniformly, people from Iceland, Egypt, and presumably, Bolivia. Even though a huge majority from Bolivia (and Mexico) are "Native American" with almost no European ancestry.

Asian Indian is one category (all of whom are as White Caucasian as a Norwegian), and Pakistani is "other Asian". But the only difference between the two is their religion and the alphabet they use to write a common language, and yet they are differentiated under "Race".

In my opinion, they should abolish the use of the word 'race' and instead use "ancestral identity". Which is really the only thing they are fishing for. They want to know how you self-identify, not what you really are.
INDEED!

The categorizations in question # 9 are a mess of ethnicities, nationalities, and crayon box colors. This is not a list of races. It never has been. I don't know why they are so fixed on using that word when it makes no sense in relation to the choices. Ancestral identity seems more appropriate, or ethnicity. Thankfully we're now allowing people to check more than one box! The 2000 census introduced the "choose more than one" option.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Just stumbled on this thread. Interesting they have a law that prohibits asking anything about religion. Is it possible to check every race and also check Some Other Race and write in "human" for Question 9?
Thank you. That's my #9 Answer.."Human"
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:27 PM
 
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The debate on getting rid of the "Some other Race" popped up because of the Hispanics using it in overwhelming numbers to describe themselves. Rather than checking "mixed" box, which is what actually represents their DNA the best, a slight majority usually chose the 'White' box, and most of the others choosing the 'Some other race' box. These numbers were 52% and 41% respectively in 2006.

Race and ethnicity in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Scroll down to the Hispanic and Latino Americans part of the page.

Their tendency to do this stems from the preference within all of Latin America to have European blood. Checking the 'Mixed' box means they are acknowledging their Indigenous (Native) American blood, which is frowned upon is just about every single Latin American country. They would rather think of their great great grandfather from Spain and chose the 'White' box', or think of themselves as a unique race and chose the 'Some other Race' box.

The 'Some other race' category was created by the census beauru for people belonging to a race other than that listed, not for Hispanics who have an identity crisis whenever the census comes around, so the beuru contemplated getting rid of it. I think they should get rid of it because it is not being used for what it is intended.
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