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Old 10-24-2009, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Gotta love it...7 pages and the Dems can only shoot at the messenger or other posters.

Refute the OP with "Obama" links. How's about something prior to January 2009 ?
Let's see the great achievements of Obama over the past 10-15 years....
He voted to leave attempted abortions that survived lying around awaiting death. Is that an accomplishment?

You are so right about the numbers of posts we can have without anything other than attacking the messenger. I love it.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:13 PM
 
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roy, WAKE UP! It's October, 2009. THERE ARE NO PROPOSED DEATH PANELS IN ANY OF THE HEALTHCARE BILLS! NONE. NADA. You're swallowing WHOLE the propaganda of the Republicans and the INSURANCE COMPANIES.......and, dare I say it, Glenn Beck.

You clearly do not understand what is being proposed in the proposed healthcare reform bills; you are taking the word of "other people" about what is going on; something you accuse "liberals" of doing all the time, when, in fact, it's YOU who is doing that very thing.

SHOW ME the all the language (from any or all of the proposed bills) which talks about "death panels." Simple, roy. Do your research, pull up the bills, and show me the "money" as they say.

As for "control of healthcare" by the government, roy, I'll bet you are not turning down your Medicare benefits, or your VA benefits = "government controlled healthcare" roy.
roy, did you miss this post? Got any specific language from the proposed health care bills about "death panels"?
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:15 PM
 
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He voted to leave attempted abortions that survived lying around awaiting death. Is that an accomplishment?

You are so right about the numbers of posts we can have without anything other than attacking the messenger. I love it.
you, roy, are clearly AVOIDING/EVADING a question which was asked of you. Show us all the specific language (all of it) in the proposed healthcare bills which say there will be death panels which will REQUIRE you to pick your time of death, or will REQUIRE THAT YOU BE PUT TO DEATH?
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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you, roy, are clearly AVOIDING/EVADING a question which was asked of you. Show us all the specific language (all of it) in the proposed healthcare bills which say there will be death panels which will REQUIRE you to pick your time of death, or will REQUIRE THAT YOU BE PUT TO DEATH?
Where did you get that definition from ?

Lord..it's done today via "denial" by the insurers.
You think that won't continue ?

Didn't a report just come out saying all these screenings are now unnecessary ? Just where do you think that will go.....
Get that big red "DENIED" stamp ready.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:30 PM
 
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Where did you get that definition from ?

Lord..it's done today via "denial" by the insurers.
You think that won't continue ?

Didn't a report just come out saying all these screenings are now unnecessary ? Just where do you think that will go.....
Get that big red "DENIED" stamp ready.
Yeah, but this is the part where the Libs. say...."NO way.....the government would NEVER do THAT to poor, little meee, would they?"
THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yeah, but this is the part where the Libs. say...."NO way.....the government would NEVER do THAT to poor, little meee, would they?"
THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!
Obama has done a 360 on almost every group he has gotten behind him once he doesn't need them anymore. Then he leaves them in the dust.

He really is throwing them all under the bus once he gets what he wants from them.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:42 PM
 
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"a clerk from the DMV"? "a clerk from the insurance company" is different?
Reality is Medicare and VA are goverment prorams and only docs make decisions for the 50 million or so under these .

Reality is insurance clerks that are paid less and are dumber than DMV folks tell
docs what they can or can't do NOW.

Reality is the the right is wrong because they hate reality as the mortal enemy of their delusional ideology.

Reality is Benny is a hack for hire that will anything someone will pay him to say.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:45 PM
 
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Where did you get that definition from ?

Lord..it's done today via "denial" by the insurers.
You think that won't continue ?

Didn't a report just come out saying all these screenings are now unnecessary ? Just where do you think that will go.....
Get that big red "DENIED" stamp ready.
Show us the language from the proposed bills which provide for "death panels" which will require you to end your life if you are "elderly"? THAT'S the impression which has been intentionally give in order to scare the begeezus out of people! It's just plain propaganda.

YOU show me the language which YOU think will provide for specifically "death panels" in any or all of the proposed healthcare bills.

YES, I know that today PRIVATE INSURANCE does deny procedures which costs people their lives.........and those denials are motivate by greedy companies looking out for their profits and their bottom line.

I continue to read people posting phrases like "government-run healthcare" and "death panels".........those are BS phrases and the sole intention is to scare people into thinking that the COMMUNISTS ARE COMING TO KILL THEM, or the "socialists" are coming to kill them. It's just amazing how much people really do fall for such propaganda and scare tactics........those BIG $$$$ Lobbyists and Insurance Companies' so-called grassroots organizations like Americans for Prosperity REALLY KNOW HOW TO MANIPULATE old folks.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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Yeah, but this is the part where the Libs. say...."NO way.....the government would NEVER do THAT to poor, little meee, would they?"
THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!
And you are just totally sucked in by Big Insurance. Totally. Did it EVER occur to you that Big Insurance is more dangerous to you than the government? Did you know that Insurance Companies have an exemption to the federal anti-trust laws? Look up McCarran-Ferguson Act. Now WHY IN THE WORLD would Big Insurance be upset that there is an effort going on via the healthcare reform bills to REPEAL THAT EXEMPTION and make the Insurance Companies actually have to COMPETE for your business? If you aren't interesting in that little tidbit, then you are clearly a sucker for the private Insurance Companies and if healthcare reform fails, YOU will get what you deserve.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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I will happily take a clerk from an insurance company. They aren't civil servants, protected by their unions and layers after layer of bureaucracy. My insurance company is a publicly traded company, responsible to their shareholders. I will take those kinds of employees any day over the dead heads that end up on the government teat.
In other words your motto is ".In Wall Street I Trust".

Responsible to share holders???
You might be the only person left on this planet who believes that tripe.

Most thinking people would trust a beagle with a dart board over those thieves.
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