Every American Should See This Movie (Congress, illegal, Missouri, Indiana)

[irspow]

No matter where you stand on the political spectrum this movie should be disturbing to ANY American.

America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version

If you can watch the whole movie and not shed a tear, you should not be in the human gene pool much less in this country.

[newtoli]

Oh, another doc that attempts to prove income tax is illegal.

This guy has got over 2 million in tax liens against him.

I'll pass.

[irspow]

Didn't watch it huh?

[newtoli]

I watched it when it came out approx 3 years ago.

It is riddled with inaccuracies, just do some research.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by irspow

So you didn't watch it. What is your point?

*Actually it was made in 2005*

Um - I just said I watched it when it came out 3 years ago.

I don't know if you just watched it and took everything as fact - but half the stuff he comes up with is inaccurate. Like I said, fact check it. There was a big to do when this "movie" came out because he claimed he had shown it at Cannes.

It was released in 2006.

[oz in SC]

Originally Posted by newtoli

I watched it when it came out approx 3 years ago.

It is riddled with inaccuracies, just do some research.

Care to post some of the inaccuracies?

[irspow]

Newtoli,

It is just a movie. Where in my post did I say that it was beyond question? I didn't. And the movie is not just about income tax. Do you hate all movies that you disagree with? I never asserted anything about the movie other than it should be disturbing. I wonder why you have so much animosity towards it...or do you have an agenda? I was just posting a link to a movie that I thought was disturbing. Maybe we can have a censorship thread somewhere else

Maybe you are just trying to bury the link under garbage posts.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...80303867390173

[newtoli]

Where did I say I hated this movie?

I don't have any animosity towards it, I just remember the big deal about this, watching it, researching it, and finding it was basically full of bs.

Censorship?

[oz in SC]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Oh, another doc that attempts to prove income tax is illegal.

This guy has got over 2 million in tax liens against him.

I'll pass.

A little fact checking by YOU and you might have known the guy is....dead.

He died in 2007.

[Glitch]

Does the US Constitution grant Congress the power to tax incomes?

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Source: US Constitution, 16th Amendment

For most normal people, that would be the end of the issue. However, for the fanatical fringe that answer is insufficient. They question whether or not the 16th Amendment was ever ratified in accordance with the US Constitution. According to Article V of the US Constitution, the proposed amendment must be "ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States." In 1913 there were 48 States, which meant that at least 36 State legislatures must ratify the proposed amendment before it can become part of the US Constitution.

The dates of ratification were:

• Alabama, August 10, 1909;
• Kentucky, February 8, 1910;
• South Carolina, February 19, 1910;
• Illinois, March 1, 1910;
• Mississippi, March 7, 1910;
• Oklahoma, March 10, 1910;
• Maryland, April 8, 1910;
• Georgia, August 3, 1910;
• Texas, August 16, 1910;
• Ohio, January 19, 1911;
• Idaho, January 20, 1911;
• Oregon, January 23, 1911;
• Washington, January 26, 1911;
• Montana, January 30, 1911;
• Indiana, January 30, 1911;
• California, January 31, 1911;
• Nevada, January 31, 1911;
• South Dakota, February 3, 1911;
• Nebraska, February 9, 1911;
• North Carolina, February 11, 1911;
• Colorado, February 15, 1911;
• North Dakota, February 17, 1911;
• Kansas, February 18, 1911;
• Michigan, February 23, 1911;
• Iowa, February 24, 1911;
• Missouri, March 16, 1911;
• Maine, March 31, 1911;
• Tennessee, April 7, 1911;
• Arkansas, April 22, 1911 (after having rejected it earlier);
• Wisconsin, May 26, 1911;
• New York, July 12, 1911;
• Arizona, April 6, 1912;
• Minnesota, June 11, 1912;
• Louisiana, June 28, 1912;
• West Virginia, January 31, 1913;
• New Mexico, February 3, 1913.

The proposed amendment was rejected by Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Utah.

The 16th Amendment of the US Constitution was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the 61st Congress on July 12, 1909, and was declared, in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated February 25, 1913, to have been ratified by 36 of the 48 States on February 3, 1913.

The amendment was subsequently ratified by Massachusetts, March 4, 1913; and New Hampshire, March 7, 1913 (after having rejected it on March 2, 1911).

There is absolutely no doubt that that the 16th Amendment was ratified in accordance with Article V of the US Constitution, thereby conferring to Congress the power to tax individual incomes "without regard to any census or enumeration."

The fanatical fringe may not like that reality, but that does not change the Supreme Law of the Land.