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Old 10-28-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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Just curious but are there any conservative Republicans who do not consider themselves on the far right? It seems like most of the Republicans and Conservatives on this forum are to the far right. Are there are any Republicans who support fiscal policy, less govt. and individual responsibilty yet oppose Evangelicalism and extreme anti-Obama views? By extreme anti-Obama views, I'm not suggesting one can't oppose and disagree with the President on issues; I was just referring to the "Obama is a racist" etc views. I would respectfully ask only those who identify with the criteria below to respond. My intent isn't to start a war with those on the far right. We can politely agree to disagree. Nonetheless, I would just like to hear from those moderate to centrist Republicans if there are any on this forum.

For example are there are any Republicans on this forum that meet all of the criteria below

1. They don't think Obama is a racist
2. They don't think Obama is a socialist
3. They don't think Obama is a communist
4. They don't think Obama was born outside the United States
5. They don't think Obama is secretly a Muslim and supporter of Terrorists
6. They believe in a woman's right to choose regardless of their personal feelings on abortion
7. They are not against Gay rights to marry (regardless of how they personally and religiously feel about homosexuality)
8. They can relate more to Bill O'reilly than Glenn Beck
9. They do not identify themselves as Conservative Christians, Evangelicals or supporters of the Christian Coalition despite their faith being Christian.
10. They don't see liberalism as a curse but rather a philosophy they disagree with.
All this is, is more talk of more division. Who cares? I could care less if Obama is all these things. He doesn't have any power according to the Constitution. The power resides with the people. He could be a card carrying communist, but that doesn't mean he has the power to change the country to communism. It is not set up that way.

Division keeps the masses confused, as they try to indentify with certain parties and factions. Who is right and who is wrong. Then they talk, talk, talk, trying to prove their points.

Life, Liberty, and the protection of Property should be the only thing on the minds of true Americans. The rest is B.S. and really is a waste of time to even discuss.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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how many do you share of that list?
1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10

4 and 6 are still controversial in my mind. I'm not a birther, but I don't think that Obama has been fully transparent to the extent that he could be. I abhor abortion, but I won't say there is NEVER a reason for abortion.

You'll never get me to agree with 7.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10

4 and 6 are still controversial in my mind.
#7 Left out. .....Stick it to the gays......LOL
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:11 PM
 
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Last edited by azriverfan.; 10-28-2009 at 01:24 PM..
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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Wow, it's really shocking that I can't get one Republican besides myself not to agree with the first 5 criteria. It just reinforces my belief this forum is full of extremists. Then again, I shouldn't be suprised because people who are more level headed and centrist typically don't post on these forums.
You should consider coming over to the Demcorats. The left side of the this Party shares Ron Paul's libertarian views on military intervention and civil liberties. The Blue Dog faction shares your views on fiscal Conservatism. (Or at least the the extent the GOP shares your views on fiscal Conservatism)
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10

4 and 6 are still controversial in my mind. I'm not a birther, but I don't think that Obama has been fully transparent to the extent that he could be. I abhor abortion, but I won't say there is NEVER a reason for abortion.

You'll never get me to agree with 7.
At least you are levelheaded. I can understand someone disagreeing with 6,7 and 9. And yes, I am seeking Reagan Republicans who are socially liberal on some issues and fiscally conservative
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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#7 Left out. .....Stick it to the gays......LOL
I support civil unions that confer the benefits that gays are seeking. I think marriage, even with all its flaws, should be left between a man and a woman.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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6. They believe in a woman's right to choose regardless of their personal feelings on abortion
7. They are not against Gay rights to marry (regardless of how they personally and religiously feel about homosexuality)
(...)
9. They do not identify themselves as Conservative Christians, Evangelicals or supporters of the Christian Coalition despite their faith being Christian.
10. They don't see liberalism as a curse but rather a philosophy they disagree with.
Wouldn't someone who held these views be more likely a libertarian?
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:16 PM
 
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I support civil unions that confer the benefits that gays are seeking. I think marriage, even with all its flaws, should be left between a man and a woman.
Oh it's not even a State's issue then?
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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Wow, it's really shocking that I can't get one Republican besides myself not to agree with the first 5 criteria. It just reinforces my belief this forum is full of extremists. Then again, I shouldn't be suprised because people who are more level headed and centrist typically don't post on these forums.
Well, since I do not label myself, maybe I should have not even replied.

Extremist? I have kids, so yea, I have to be EXTREMELY vigilant concerning their BIRTHRIGHT as Americans.

I have floated down the river myself, back in the day when it was fun. We could park our trucks down on the water, and enjoy the day. Since then? The have gated all the cool spots. So now, it isn't freedom, nor fun. It is regulated recreation. Whoopie.
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