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Old 10-29-2009, 04:06 PM
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Or as an alternative theory... the CIA rightly wants to avoid giving terrorists more ammo in their recruitment drives.
Just maybe GWB was right to want to keep some of this stuff under wraps because not doing so will lead to more AMERICANS GETTING KILLED.
Exactly what I wanted to post.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Over There
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The bottom line is that it is very easy to make promises BEFORE you are actually sitting at the big desk. Anyone that actually thought things as far as defense go where going to be different are very naive. People bitched about the things Bush did but they kept us safe and it is exactly what Obama is going to do because he does not want an attack during his term, so everyone that complained about Bush should take a step back and realize he did it to keep us safe just like Obama is doing now.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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Only the brain-dead thinks there's really a difference in agendas between the Democrats and the Republicans. Hey, they're the only 2 teams in the league! They control it and they control the stupid American voter who won't "waste" a vote on a 3rd party!

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I thought we got rid of Bush and Co.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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Or as an alternative theory... the CIA rightly wants to avoid giving terrorists more ammo in their recruitment drives.
Just maybe GWB was right to want to keep some of this stuff under wraps because not doing so will lead to more AMERICANS GETTING KILLED.
What???

The only reason that The Bush/Cheney Crime Family wanted this hidden was to protect their own butts! Typing in caps does not make something more true...BTW.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:41 PM
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What???

The only reason that The Bush/Cheney Crime Family wanted this hidden was to protect their own butts! Typing in caps does not make something more true...BTW.
I would have to disagree with you...It was for the overall safety, just like they're doing now.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I thought we got rid of Bush and Co.

"President Signs Law Giving Defense Department Authority To Exempt Photos From Freedom Of Information Act"

"President Obama today signed into law a Homeland Security appropriations bill that grants the Department of Defense (DOD) the authority to continue suppressing photos of prisoner abuse."

American Civil Liberties Union : President Signs Law Giving Defense Department Authority To Exempt Photos From Freedom Of Information Act

http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/safefree/le...egislation.pdf
This assumes that there has been abuse. Depends on your definition, I guess.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:50 PM
 
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I would have to disagree with you...It was for the overall safety, just like they're doing now.
No, sorry...The actual torture that ensued and many of the tortured are still around to tell the story, I might add, was what put our reputation and safety in jeopardy. The damage has been done, the photos are not the incriminating evidence. Punish the guilty or America is a complete fraud and a nation with a "Constitution that is just a piece of paper" that Bush said it was.

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Old 10-29-2009, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I thought we got rid of Bush and Co.

"President Signs Law Giving Defense Department Authority To Exempt Photos From Freedom Of Information Act"

"President Obama today signed into law a Homeland Security appropriations bill that grants the Department of Defense (DOD) the authority to continue suppressing photos of prisoner abuse."

American Civil Liberties Union : President Signs Law Giving Defense Department Authority To Exempt Photos From Freedom Of Information Act

http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/safefree/le...egislation.pdf
Wow the President is as bad as the Fox Newsies, why sugar coat the truth. Autrocities are autrocities
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Old 10-29-2009, 05:06 PM
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No, sorry...The actual torture that ensued and many of the tortured are still around to tell the story, I might add, was what put our reputation and safety in jeopardy. The damage has been done, the photos are not the incriminating evidence. Punish the guilty or America is a complete fraud and a nation with a "Constitution that is just a piece of paper" that Bush said it was.
lol, you know what I would equate that to? The rats over there who publish their beheadings for you to watch...

You're a bit overboard in your presumptions of convictions. I do believe that everything that was done was legal and signed off on by the most powerful people at the time. So, nothing's going to happen.
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Old 10-29-2009, 06:01 PM
 
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No, sorry...The actual torture that ensued and many of the tortured are still around to tell the story, I might add, was what put our reputation and safety in jeopardy. The damage has been done, the photos are not the incriminating evidence. Punish the guilty or America is a complete fraud and a nation with a "Constitution that is just a piece of paper" that Bush said it was.
I agree.
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