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Old 10-29-2009, 07:02 PM
 
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Not quite three weeks ago, President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. On Wednesday afternoon, he put his signature on the largest military spending plan in the history of the world.

Obama swallowed his veto threat and, in the East Room on Wednesday, signed the National Defense Authorization Act -- at $680 billion, the largest ever of its kind in current dollars.

The details are more problematic than the size. Congress and military contractors already forced Obama to accept $560 million for the new engine that the Pentagon doesn't want for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The defense appropriations bill, the next step in the spending process, is expected to make him accept $2.5 billion for 10 new C-17 cargo jets he doesn't want, and $1.7 billion for another DDG-51 destroyer he doesn't need.

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I see a total lack of leadership and fortitude in this President. All bark and no bite. If he's going to issue a veto-threat, and then not use it when he's challenged by his own Congress, then he might as well go back to Chicago where he's more effective as a community organizer.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:12 PM
 
Location: stairway to heaven
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Not quite three weeks ago, President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. On Wednesday afternoon, he put his signature on the largest military spending plan in the history of the world.

Obama swallowed his veto threat and, in the East Room on Wednesday, signed the National Defense Authorization Act -- at $680 billion, the largest ever of its kind in current dollars.

The details are more problematic than the size. Congress and military contractors already forced Obama to accept $560 million for the new engine that the Pentagon doesn't want for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The defense appropriations bill, the next step in the spending process, is expected to make him accept $2.5 billion for 10 new C-17 cargo jets he doesn't want, and $1.7 billion for another DDG-51 destroyer he doesn't need.

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I see a total lack of leadership and fortitude in this President. All bark and no bite. If he's going to issue a veto-threat, and then not use it when he's challenged by his own Congress, then he might as well go back to Chicago where he's more effective as a community organizer.
Here Here Here!
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:20 PM
 
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& if he did veto the bill, what would be the title of this thread?
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:46 PM
 
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& if he did veto the bill, what would be the title of this thread?
Well, for one, he'd earn a few brownie points for showing some stones. That's been one of the biggest problems i've had with Obama the whole time; he's full of talk but short on action. Even if I don't agree with what he says, i'll at least give the man some respect for standing up for what he believes in.

A veto threat is to be used to get what he believes is for the betterment of the country; not for looking like Billy Bad Ass, and then standing down to the corporate interests that fill the back pockets of Congress.

Same sh*t, different day in Washington DC. Change my ass.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Not quite three weeks ago, President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. On Wednesday afternoon, he put his signature on the largest military spending plan in the history of the world.

Obama swallowed his veto threat and, in the East Room on Wednesday, signed the National Defense Authorization Act -- at $680 billion, the largest ever of its kind in current dollars.

The details are more problematic than the size. Congress and military contractors already forced Obama to accept $560 million for the new engine that the Pentagon doesn't want for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The defense appropriations bill, the next step in the spending process, is expected to make him accept $2.5 billion for 10 new C-17 cargo jets he doesn't want, and $1.7 billion for another DDG-51 destroyer he doesn't need.

washingtonpost.com


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I see a total lack of leadership and fortitude in this President. All bark and no bite. If he's going to issue a veto-threat, and then not use it when he's challenged by his own Congress, then he might as well go back to Chicago where he's more effective as a community organizer.
Who in congress put these pork barrel projects in. This is as bad as the unneccessary aircraft carrier Trent Lott pushed on the Navy
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:53 PM
 
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Hawks badmouthing Santa Clause?

Who would have guessed?
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:14 PM
 
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Hawks badmouthing Santa Clause?

Who would have guessed?
You know, it is possible to make a stand against wasteful spending and be pro-defense at the same time. If he, and the Pentagon, did not want certain defense-related items to be funded, then he should have wielded the veto-pen that he threatened. But he didn't. All bark and no bite.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That money to be spent on unrequested defense items could have went to better things defense related. It's pork barrel politics at its finest.

Whoever is making those jets that no one wants is the winner here...corporate interests in the Democratic Party ???
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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That money to be spent on unrequested defense items could have went to better things defense related. It's pork barrel politics at its finest.

Whoever is making those jets that no one wants is the winner here...corporate interests in the Democratic Party ???
Meet the new boss same as the old boss, Bush Lite.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Hawks badmouthing Santa Clause?

Who would have guessed?
I'm sure the GOP had their share of these Pork Barrel Weapons Systems in this budget, even though they lost the hundreds of billions for a Missle shield to protect the Czech Republic from Iran
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