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Old 10-30-2009, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Remember back when people began complaining about government running private health care agencies out of businesses by undercutting prices, and forcing companies who couldn't subsidize themselves with "free" tax money, to go bankrupt? And how this could eventually lead to the Govt being the only place you could get your health care... making the govt the only one in charge of deciding whether Granny should get expensive treatments that didn't have a 100% chance of prolonging her life?

Then came the news that this govt insurance would pay doctors for counselling session where they would give patients alternatives for end-of-life decisions.

Democrats screamed that these were not "death panels"... but in the Senate bill, they quietly took them out a week later.

Now, in the new 1,990-page House bill unveiled yesterday, they're back!

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So-Called 'Death Panel' Measure Survives in House Health Bill - FOXNews.com

So-Called 'Death Panel' Measure Survives in House Health Bill

October 29, 2009

WASHINGTON -- It's alive.

The Medicare end-of-life planning provision that 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said was tantamount to "death panels" for seniors is staying in the latest Democratic health care bill unveiled Thursday.

The legislation would allow Medicare to pay for a counseling session with a doctor or clinical professional once every five years. The bill calls for such sessions to be "completely" voluntary, and prohibits the encouragement or promotion of suicide or assisted suicide.


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Old 10-30-2009, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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That's because the House bill was written by Democrats, not Republicans dressed like Democrats.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:45 PM
 
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All the measure ever allowed was for doctors to be paid for the consults they are having already anyway...
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:46 PM
 
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Perhaps Ms. Nancy should consider herself terminally old and should have written language into the legislation prohibiting old crones such as herself from having Botox injected into their old geriatric faces. Save that Botox for the young attractive women Ms. Nancy.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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A law that "prohibits the encouragement or promotion of suicide or assisted suicide" is equivalent to a death panel? The OP mentions doctors and patients. Where's the death panel?
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:04 PM
 
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A law that "prohibits the encouragement or promotion of suicide or assisted suicide" is equivalent to a death panel? The OP mentions doctors and patients. Where's the death panel?
Ain't no such animal. Which rocket scientists bought into that asinine title? The think granny will be seen by Dr. Mengele.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Here we go again with the bull**** lies about death panels..
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:07 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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So-Called 'Death Panel' Measure Survives in House Health Bill

October 29, 2009

WASHINGTON -- It's alive.

The Medicare end-of-life planning provision that 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said was tantamount to "death panels" for seniors is staying in the latest Democratic health care bill unveiled Thursday.

The legislation would allow Medicare to pay for a counseling session with a doctor or clinical professional once every five years. The bill calls for such sessions to be "completely" voluntary, and prohibits the encouragement or promotion of suicide or assisted suicide.
So you don't already have a living will? What is the big deal? Calling this a death panel was at first a troll-like attention getter by the wingnuts, but now just shows ignorance.

In case someone has been living in a cave for a dozen or so years.....

Advance health care directives, also known as living wills, advance directives, or advance decisions, are instructions given by individuals specifying what actions should be taken for their health in the event that they are no longer able to make decisions due to illness or incapacity.

Advance health care directive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:10 PM
 
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I rescinded my living will in protest of the attempt of the government to tell me what to do when I am dying.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:14 PM
 
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I rescinded my living will in protest of the attempt of the government to tell me what to do when I am dying.
Wha...??????


So now who tells the doctors what to do when you're dying????? And WHY do you think the government wants to tell you what to do when you're dying?????????????????????????????????????????????
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