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Old 10-31-2009, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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I am not a Hillary fan but maybe just maybe Democrats voted for the wrong person. It seems to be playing out that way.

It was back in February that Hillary Clinton, then Mr Obama's implacable foe and now his Secretary of State, mocked his kumbaya message that everything could change if Americans only had the vision to elect him to the White House. "I could just stand up here and say 'Let's just get everybody together, let's get unified'," she told supporters at a rally in Providence, Rhode Island. "The sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect. Maybe I've just lived a little long, but I have no illusions at how hard this is going to be."

Barack Obama: so much for superhero - Telegraph
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:47 AM
 
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It's easy to love Hillary now that she's not an elected official.

Personally, I love her as Secretary Of State, and I think she's much better-suited for that position than she would have been as President. I'm still happy that Obama won.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:16 AM
 
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To judge Obama, all you have to do is look at the quality of the complaints being lodged against him by what barely even qualifies as an opposition anymore. Week after week, month after month, those complaints become only more ridiculously lame and more desperately disconnected from any sort of reality at all The right-wing is being forced by the truth of Obama's obvious successes to abandon the fringe and retreat to some new stronghold even more remote than that. The prayers of all Tea Partiers go now to St. Jude, the Apostle...the patron saint of lost causes...
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:32 AM
 
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To judge Obama, all you have to do is look at the quality of the complaints being lodged against him by what barely even qualifies as an opposition anymore. Week after week, month after month, those complaints become only more ridiculously lame and more desperately disconnected from any sort of reality at all The right-wing is being forced by the truth of Obama's obvious successes to abandon the fringe and retreat to some new stronghold even more remote than that. The prayers of all Tea Partiers go now to St. Jude, the Apostle...the patron saint of lost causes...
Look at who's lost touch with reality. I would post a long grocery list of Obama's (what would you call them? : not faux pas, not miscues, not errors..........you would have to call them.....) calamities, but what would be the point?

The left of this country is SO FAR out of touch, you guys won't wake up until your darlings are thrown out of office on their callous, ignorant, arrogant arses.

Hillary would at least have left you a shred of dignity. As such, you have none now.
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:58 AM
 
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The left of this country is SO FAR out of touch, you guys won't wake up until your darlings are thrown out of office on their callous, ignorant, arrogant arses.
How is your statement congruent with the polls that show Obama consistently having higher approval ratings than disapproval ratings?

Pollster.com: National Job Approval: Pres. Barack Obama
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:21 AM
 
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People forget that Hillary is running the show just like Cheney did with Bush. Hillary had her people get the top appointee posts( Rahm, Holder,) her enemies got kicked to the curb( Kerrey, Richardson).
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:38 AM
 
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People forget that Hillary is running the show just like Cheney did with Bush. Hillary had her people get the top appointee posts( Rahm, Holder,) her enemies got kicked to the curb( Kerrey, Richardson).
Really? I've never heard that theory. Did you just make it up or have you believed it all along? Any news reports to back up your claims?
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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Look at who's lost touch with reality. I would post a long grocery list of Obama's (what would you call them? : not faux pas, not miscues, not errors..........you would have to call them.....) calamities, but what would be the point?

The left of this country is SO FAR out of touch, you guys won't wake up until your darlings are thrown out of office on their callous, ignorant, arrogant arses.

Hillary would at least have left you a shred of dignity. As such, you have none now.
It appears the British are more adept in evaluating our present administration than are America's liberals. There are numerous indications that the honeymoon is over,...that even the people who voted for Obama are recognizing that the administration is floundering, ...that they voted more for idealism over substance. Obama is just like the Post Office,..he talks a good line, but can't deliver.

Obama is the Edsel of politics,...looks good, but isn't worth a damn ......
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:47 AM
 
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To judge Obama, all you have to do is look at the quality of the complaints being lodged against him by what barely even qualifies as an opposition anymore. Week after week, month after month, those complaints become only more ridiculously lame and more desperately disconnected from any sort of reality at all The right-wing is being forced by the truth of Obama's obvious successes to abandon the fringe and retreat to some new stronghold even more remote than that. The prayers of all Tea Partiers go now to St. Jude, the Apostle...the patron saint of lost causes...
The left likes to take the most extreme and unfounded arguments against Obama and say that anyone who opposed Obama is a lunatic.

Unemployment has risen more than 2% since Obama took office. This is after he said his stimulus would prevent employment from breaking 8% this year and maxing out at 9% next year. He wasted $ 787 Billion on a stimulus plan that has done nothing. He and the (D)s ignored the major GOP suggestions and he forced it down our throats before anyone read the bill (himself included).

He has demonized his opponents, be it tea party or town hall attendees, insurance companies, the Chamber of Commerce and, now, Fox News. The radicalism and shadiness of his advisers (Holdren, Jones, Dunn, Blum, Ratner, etc) has been documented if you listen to the right sources. Cap-and-Trade, which he strongly supports, will severely hurt out Economy. The (D) Healthcare plans have been torn apart by places like the Cato institute, Chamber of Commerce and Heritage. He is weak on counterterrorism and won't even use the word 'terrorism,' instead calling it 'man caused disaster.' He appeases to illegals and the DOJ has tried to intervene with Sheriff Joe in Arizona and prevented him from begin as aggressive as he has been. He trashes America when he travels and is friendly to and popular with America-hating dictators like Chavez, the Castros, Ahmadinejad, Ortega and others. He sided with the lunatic from Honduras who violated the constitution and tried to stay in office longer than allowed.

Whenever he is in trouble, he blames Bush. This year's budget deficit was 3-4 times larger than the largest deficit ever under Bush. Had Bush stayed, his deficit would have been large as well, but not as large as it was under Obama. The way that he talks about the high income earners and the tax code is sickening. The high earners DO pay their fair share; it's the bottom half of earners who do not contribute to the revenue pool while receiving plentiful services. The list goes on .... and on.... and on.....

People just need to wake up and realize that, by supporting Obama and the Democrats' policies, they are hurting themselves.
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Look at who's lost touch with reality. I would post a long grocery list of Obama's (what would you call them? : not faux pas, not miscues, not errors..........you would have to call them.....) calamities, but what would be the point?

The left of this country is SO FAR out of touch, you guys won't wake up until your darlings are thrown out of office on their callous, ignorant, arrogant arses.

Hillary would at least have left you a shred of dignity. As such, you have none now.


Apparently his biggest failure so far is failing to ensure all Americans have a diet that doesn't consist entirely of sour grapes
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