When White America is Dead? (Congress, Clinton, Kennedy, independent)

[NMyTree]

Originally Posted by natalayjones

Sorry, I misunderstood. I have white friends, family members and coworkers who I speak with openly about race so my "real world" experiences don't align with your comment and I assumed you meant on CD.

As for the second part of your comment; I disagree primarily because the majority of threads talking about black people aren't created by black people.

Well, I'm glad your "real world " experiences are better.

While I have spoken with a few black friends openly about race, with no one losing their mind over it. I find that there's a very widespread bias and double-standard in society, today. And has been for a long time.

It even crosses over to discussion/situations like this (just one example. mind you).....

If I speak and say there is a white neighborhood that is filled with white people with no manners, alcoholism, criminal activity/actions and a general seedy element to it. People don't blink.

But if I say....... there is a black neighborhood that is filled with black people with no manners, alcoholism, criminal activity/actions and a general seedy element to it. Suddenly, you get people swarming like flies to a carcass and screaming racism.

When in fact, both statements are expressed within the context of discussing a problem that needs a solution and out of concern.

Yet, the Political Correctness Extremists always find a way to expose themselves and make fools of themselves.

[nat_at772]

Originally Posted by NMyTree

Well, I'm glad your "real world " experiences are better.

While I have spoken with a few black friends openly about race, with no one losing their mind over it. I find that there's a very widespread bias and double-standard in society, today. And has been for a long time.

It even crosses over to discussion/situations like this (just one example. mind you).....

If I speak and say there is a white neighborhood that is filled with white people with no manners, alcoholism, criminal activity/actions and a general seedy element to it. People don't blink.

But if I say....... there is a black neighborhood that is filled with black people with no manners, alcoholism, criminal activity/actions and a general seedy element to it. Suddenly, you get people swarming like flies to a carcass and screaming racism.

When in fact, both statements are expressed within the context of discussing a problem that needs a solution and out of concern.

Yet, the Political Correctness Extremists always find a way to expose themselves and make fools of themselves.

I guess it all depends on who you're talking to and the tone of the conversation.

If prior to your comment about the white neighborhood you were talking about minorities and crime I'd be more likely to think you were making a racist comment; i.e the white neighborhood is X,Y,Z because of the lack of non-white people.

If prior to your comment regarding the black neighborhood we were talking about the middle class vs. the welfare class I wouldn't take it as a racial comment.

[Bluefly]

Originally Posted by NMyTree

Well, I'm glad your "real world " experiences are better.

While I have spoken with a few black friends openly about race, with no one losing their mind over it. I find that there's a very widespread bias and double-standard in society, today. And has been for a long time.

It even crosses over to discussion/situations like this (just one example. mind you).....

If I speak and say there is a white neighborhood that is filled with white people with no manners, alcoholism, criminal activity/actions and a general seedy element to it. People don't blink.

But if I say....... there is a black neighborhood that is filled with black people with no manners, alcoholism, criminal activity/actions and a general seedy element to it. Suddenly, you get people swarming like flies to a carcass and screaming racism.

When in fact, both statements are expressed within the context of discussing a problem that needs a solution and out of concern.

Yet, the Political Correctness Extremists always find a way to expose themselves and make fools of themselves.

You're right that there is a definite double-standard. I, too, have been blessed with black friends who are more than happy to both celebrate the value of their culture and criticize the problems.

A lot of my black friends, for instance, are very frustrated with the obsession with sex and materialism in the culture. A sense of entitlement to be successful has emerged that is doing a lot of damage to creating a genuine culture of success. In many ways, the black community has recently emerged into a formidable middle class force and is probably just going through a phase of materialism before the thrill wears off. That seems to be what happens for a lot of cultures that have recently come into financial stability.

I suspect a lot of the double-standard remains because, as a culture, there were formidable institutional barriers to black success up until very, very recently (and still there in some ways). White people, in contrast, have been free to make or break it on their own for generations.

[TnHilltopper]

Folks, the reason so many racial threads get closed is because people can't seem to discuss this issue without hurling insults and engaging in personal flame wars that have little to do with the topic. I suggest folks stay on track.

[dorock99]

Originally Posted by ♠atizar♠

Anthropological studies do not support your ramblings.

Yes, now tell me how all the anthropologists are part of the big scary liberal conspiracy.

In my opinion legislating "Racism" was a major mistake the Western World made. The labeling concepts of "black" and "white" are just completely inaccurate. The only use is to divide and conquer.

I've come to my logical reasonings based simply on the moral natural order of human beings.

1. Is racial labels something the human being would innately use as a tool for survival if he was truly free?

I've come to the conclusion based on being well traveled and having contact with a lot of different groups of people, the answer is NO! Knowing whether someone was "white" or "black" would not help a human being pick berriers better, hunt animals better, and procreate better. It serves no purpose for human survival. It is useless knowledge.

2. Is there actually a pure breed of human beings?

I've come to the conclusion based on the mixing of so many various human beings throughout time there is no "pure" breed human beings. The Europeans were not always Europeans and the Africans were not always African and the Asians were not always Asians. All of these groups have been mixing since the dawn of time. It is in the best interest of human beings to mix with one another for survival. It is part of the moral order of humanity if left untouched.


3. Is there any benefit to not mixing as it relates to the survival of human beings?

No, there is no natural benefit to attempting to make a "pure breed" of human beings. The Hybrid (mixed) human being is the only human being on record to consistently survive. In fact i think you could make the argument that attempting to create a "pure breed" of human beings would result in and ultimately eliminate those human beings from the earth. The mixing of races helps create a strong human being. It takes the innate survival abilities of one mountainous or cave dwelling group and mixes them with the sun or land dwelling group. The offspring of this combination is much better equipped for survival in both regions. Not to mention you eliminate a lot of genetic diseases that may have killed off one group and left it less able to survive.

4. How would one create a super human?

You can only create a superhuman through mixing the various human beings. It is just common knowledge. If you were asked to create the greatest super hero of all time. You wouldn't only take Superman's ability to fly, you would take combination of Aqua man's ability to swim and communicate with the fish, you'd take spider man's heighten senses, and the list could go on. Basically all I'm saying is nature does not impose such a restriction on humanity. Nature imposes exactly the opposite. The natural moral order of the human species can only continue if it keeps breeding with different elements to make itself stronger.


5. Final Thoughts on "Race" as a tool for control?

To sum it all of up. I strongly believe race as a tool for control will slowly start to move away. It is much to weak and much too complicated to place on society. The high levels of human mixture dictates a very historically impossible job to maintain for those in power. The amount of historical dishonesty you have to promote, the amount of historical evidence you have to hide, the amount of time rewriting history, is much to great a cost for those in charge. Racial dividing is very new and very recent as a tool for control. It has proved to be ineffective.

To have a superior race of individuals you have to make sure they never ever come in contact with those legislated lower on the scale.

1. This is impossible (because you must first have a race of pure breed humans (has never happened in the history of human beings)

2. If you define one group as superior (they have to believe it) thus you have to make it happen

3. If you define other groups as inferior (they have to believe it) thus you have to make it happen

4. In my opinion because human being are allowed to travel outside of the bounds of their World Wide Plantations you get conflict. Numbers 2 and 3 are the hardest to maintain. (At some point a supposed inferior person will come into contact with a supposed superior person and will realize they are not superior. Or the opposite will happen.)

In my opinion 4 is actually the most detrimental to the tool of "Race" as a societal design to control massive people. If one doesn't believe in the others superiority or inferiority you have people starting to ask questions. It's like questioning the existence of God. If people start to question and demand the burden of proof be on the individuals who said this is so you have problems. No religious organization can prove the existence of God and no Tyrant can prove the legitimacy of a serf "racial caste system."

I do not think the government "overseers" of the World want to continue to use this failed tool for control. It is too ineffective. It was simply an experiment that has proven very bad. Hitler used this tool within an all "white society" he was clearly an opportunist. In Africa the French used this tool in Rwanda. They created a hierarchy based on no empirical evidence merely because they said so and the people did not question. The end result in both cases genocide of human beings. Trust me anyone that preaches racial purity is an opportunist and you never know what direction they're going to go. You may very well find yourself on the outside of the group they choose to "label" pure. A tyrant is still a tyrant by any other name. The other thing to note about Hitler is he never said Aryans were the superior race. In most of his dealings he often mentioned another group controlling the world. His belief was that this "other" group should not control the world and that "Aryans" should be the rulers and owners of the worlds serfs. (To me this is significant, because it begs the question, who the hell is the "they?")


It is a known fact that individuals who attempt to ask questions outside of the societal constraints are dangerous to society. If people start to critically think about what they're saying, it can ultimately lead to more questions and the demand for more logical well reasoned answers. The attept by people like me is not to stir up trouble, but to prod for answers and put the burden of proof on those in power. Why should sefs be given such a great responsibility in terms of maintaining the burden of proof?

In all honesty a friend asked me a great question. What would you do if it is revealed everything you believe is not true? What is the next step?

My response nothing! There is no next step in the process. There is no next step other than accepting it and moving forward. I'm not sure the human being can handle freedom. We just do not possesse the skill set anymore to do it on our own. We have been too pacified and have all become very comfortable with our lives as serfs. "They" for the most part gives us everything we need. There isjust no real need to revolt or ever leave.

[donsabi]

When white America disappears there will be no America.

[LibertyandJusticeforAll]

When white people are gone I wonder if anyone would notice.
After all maybe white people are just breeding with the black, asian and latinos etc so the minorities will become the majorites and start paying for white people to get jobs, free food and shelter. then again maybe America will just destroy itself with it's stupid ideas of socialism and it really wont matter EVERYONE WILL BE EQUAUL.

[Casper in Dallas]

Ok, what the heck is "White America"? I always considered America to be multiracial in makeup and one of the things that makes this a melting pot with a wide range of races and cultures, something we should be proud of.
Casper

[Neuling]

I wonder what Americans' obsession with "race" is all about. Aren't there any shrinks for entire countries?

[Bluefly]

Originally Posted by Neuling

I wonder what Americans' obsession with "race" is all about. Aren't there any shrinks for entire countries?

The OP actually lives in Scotland.