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I'm not sure what you are trying to say with all of the "video clips".. Are you attempting to pretend that I claimed Bush didnt take part in "propaganda"? I said ALL presidents,
"Ronald Reagan must be the nicest president who ever destroyed a union, tried to cut school lunch milk rations from six to four ounces, and compelled families in need of public help to first dispose of household goods in excess of $1,000...if there is an authoritarian regime in the American future, Ronald Reagan is tailored to the image of a friendly fascist." - Robert Lekachman
I try to use neutral sources or even left leaning ones, like the New York Times, when I take on liberals to help give credibility to my assertions.
What you tend to do is equivalent to saying "your wrong and I'm right because a leftist rag agrees with me". Gets a little predictable and boring, not to mention your source is at odds with the facts.
Clinton signed GLBA.
Without that, Glass-Steigall never gets repealed.
Clinton signed NAFTA.
Clinton made MFNTS for China permanent.
"The facts are clear: The Clinton machine joined with K Street to manufacture the very international economic policies that are destroying the economy. And yet, this same machine now claims to have had nothing to do with those economic policies - at the very moment, the machine is pushing a NAFTA-style Colombia Free Trade Agreement in Congress."
"Speaking yesterday at the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank, Cassidy noted how the promises made when the Clinton administration was promoting China's accession to the WTO have been turned on their head. "Claims were made that U.S. exports of goods to China would increase substantially," he recalled, "creating jobs in the higher-paying export sector." Instead, American manufacturers shuttered factories here and opened them in China, while China's undervaluation of its currency guaranteed that U.S. products would not be sold there."
Bull! Reagan brought about a period of 96 straight months of economic expansion. Compare that to Obama's record, so far. Nothing but destruction of our economy.
Obama is Carter II, only hundreds of times worse.
Sure. Economic expansion for the suburbs and the rich.
It is a sad sad world.... and we really have become the Idiocracy.
No, sad is when someone cannot recognize criticism of one's country. If anything, you seem to be the one who is hating America because you hate other Americans. Are we not allowed to criticize past Presidents or should we forgo the freedom of speech to put your mind at ease? I'd rather hear the truth than gloss over the bad stuff just to fulfill some sick need for American exceptionalism.
While I agree with the generalization that we are a country of idiots, it's not because these idiots are of a particular ideology, it's because they don't know how to think critically and, through very little fault of their own, they aren't given all the facts with which to make the right decisions.
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Such B.S.! You obviously were not around during the Reagan years, nor the Carter years which were not even as bad as Obama. Reagan was a savior, of sorts. He brought us back to prosperity, and gave us a reason to believe in America again.
Speaking of BS................................................ .....
I try to use neutral sources or even left leaning ones, like the New York Times, when I take on liberals to help give credibility to my assertions.
What you tend to do is equivalent to saying "your wrong and I'm right because a leftist rag agrees with me". Gets a little predictable and boring, not to mention your source is at odds with the facts.
Clinton signed GLBA.
Without that, Glass-Steigall never gets repealed.
Clinton signed NAFTA.
Clinton made MFNTS for China permanent.
"The facts are clear: The Clinton machine joined with K Street to manufacture the very international economic policies that are destroying the economy. And yet, this same machine now claims to have had nothing to do with those economic policies - at the very moment, the machine is pushing a NAFTA-style Colombia Free Trade Agreement in Congress."
"Speaking yesterday at the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank, Cassidy noted how the promises made when the Clinton administration was promoting China's accession to the WTO have been turned on their head. "Claims were made that U.S. exports of goods to China would increase substantially," he recalled, "creating jobs in the higher-paying export sector." Instead, American manufacturers shuttered factories here and opened them in China, while China's undervaluation of its currency guaranteed that U.S. products would not be sold there."
Here is a part of my previous post on this thread...
This is the legacy of Reaganomics, in a nutshell, the trickle down VooDoo economics of David Stockman, Milton Freidman and the Chicago School. The massive deficits that were something that Dick Cheney said "didn't matter" until just recently of course now are damaging that a Democrat is in the WH.
The deficits have always mattered. How we got to this point is the fault of Ronald Reagan's administration, aided and abetted by GHWB, Bill Clinton and made even worse by GW Bush. Congress has been totally spineless and craven to the wealthy in permitting these tax cuts.
I don't like your completion of Kennedy's words since they sound so much like what members of the ME generation seem to be thinking in all their selfishness. You changed the meaning of his words completely with the words by doing for yourself.
If you want to get technical, Kennedy wasn't the first to utter the phrase and he too modified it a bit. I understand General Omar Bradley said it (don't know for sure but it's what I heard). It was also written in "The New Frontier" by Gibran Khalil Gibron (1925).
If you want to get really technical, Marcus Tullius Cicero, a Roman Politician and exceptional orator may have been the first to say it. He died a little more than 2000 years ago. It was said that he actually borrowed it from a contemporary poet. You should read his work. That guy had it together.
It's not a Kennedy original. He was very well read.
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