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Old 11-03-2009, 04:57 PM
 
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Still nobody has responded to my question: How can any insurance company keep operating if they are forced to take people with preexisting conditions? People will drop their insurance so they can quit paying premiums, and wait till the actually get sick or injured. Then they will buy insurance, and the company will be forced to take them to pay for the medical care for their illness or injury. Then after the patient is cured, he will drop the insurance again and not pay premiums, until the next time he is sick.

How can an insurance company avoid swift and severe bankruptcy, under these conditions?

C'mon now... why waste a good thing like Government control over our lives indefinitely .. for just facts and common sense??
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:59 PM
 
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WIKIPEDIA???

::falls on floor laughing::

Is that the only thing you can come up with?

Did you even read that article?
typical of a lib...

attack the source (even though it is cited) , b.c can't attack the truth
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
Still nobody has responded to my question: How can any insurance company keep operating if they are forced to take people with preexisting conditions? People will drop their insurance so they can quit paying premiums, and wait till the actually get sick or injured. Then they will buy insurance, and the company will be forced to take them to pay for the medical care for their illness or injury. Then after the patient is cured, he will drop the insurance again and not pay premiums, until the next time he is sick.

How can an insurance company avoid swift and severe bankruptcy, under these conditions?
They can take these people with pre-existing conditions but it doesn't mean they have to pay their bills.
I bet they will find all sorts of loopholes to avoid taking these people on or to avoid paying their medical bills.

There isn't a cap on out of pocket costs or how much they can raise your premium in a year.

Sure they'll take on people with pre-existing conditions but they'll charge them an arm and a leg.

Why are you so worried about the insurance industry's profits? Do you have stocks in the industry or something?

Why are you more concerned with profits than human lives
?
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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typical of a lib...

attack the source (even though it is cited) , b.c can't attack the truth
As I've said before, no health care system is perfect but we have a long way to go in improving our system.

You think people don't die here due to a lack of health insurance?

Why Isn't 122 Dead Americans Every Day a National Health Emergency? | Physicians for a National Health Program

You think people aren't turned away from hospitals in this country?

Bobby Rush Takes on "Patient Dumping" | NBC Chicago
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Well when you are offering so little, like a prohibition against denying coverage to those with preexisting conditions, you don't need very many pages.
We have to do something to prevent the slugs who can afford health care insurance, but choose not to, and instead wait until they break their leg, then get health insurance, then cancel the policy again once the leg heals - rinse repeat.

And yet, something needs to be done to allow the average honest person, who is trying to find a new insurance policy, to ensure they are not denied coverage simply because they were sick once, or are currently being treated. The republican bill is supposed to contain provisions to ensure these people can get coverage, and protect consumers and insurance companies from the slugs.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Why are you more concerned with profits than human lives?

(rest of hysterical rant deleted)
Tell me, how do you expect an insurance company to pay for any medical treatments and save any human lives after it goes bankrupt?

Still nobody has responded to my question: How can any insurance company keep operating if they are forced to take people with preexisting conditions? People will drop their insurance so they can quit paying premiums, and wait till the actually get sick or injured. Then they will buy insurance, and the company will be forced to take them to pay for the medical care for their illness or injury. Then after the patient is cured, he will drop the insurance again and not pay premiums, until the next time he is sick.

How can an insurance company avoid swift and severe bankruptcy, under these conditions?
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:12 PM
 
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We have to do something to prevent the slugs who can afford health care insurance, but choose not to, and instead wait until they break their leg, then get health insurance, then cancel the policy again once the leg heals - rinse repeat.

And yet, something needs to be done to allow the average honest person, who is trying to find a new insurance policy, to ensure they are not denied coverage simply because they were sick once, or are currently being treated. The republican bill is supposed to contain provisions to ensure these people can get coverage, and protect consumers and insurance companies from the slugs.

zzzzzzzzz... and republicans wonder why they lose elections and barely have anyone claim to be a republican anymore...

way to be just one step above the dems on a 1000 step staircase going down to socialism...
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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You do realize medical innovation still happens in countries that have nationalized health care?

Look at Japan, they've spawned a whole business of low cost MRI machines and have other countries clamoring for them because they're low cost and get the job done.

Medical innovation can still happen under a single payer system.

My goal is to get rid of insurance companies who are unnecessary middle men.

There can still be profits in other health care industries such as the medical device industry.

Does universal health care suppress innovation? | Physicians for a National Health Program is a great article to read if you're concerned about a lack of innovation.
Careful, you may be using a little too much common sense and logic in your posts. Providing credible evidence and links to support your opinions is just, well, unfair.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:19 PM
 
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"More than 14,000 emergency patients were rejected at least three times by Japanese hospitals before getting treatment in 2007, according to the latest government survey."

"Japan's suicide rate is high compared to the USA; the Yomiuri Shinbun reported in June 2008 that more than 30,000 people had killed themselves every year for the past decade. A study published in 2006, suspects that health problems were a factor in almost 50 percent of the Japan's suicides in 2006"

Health care in Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Culture has somethig to do with a countries suicide rates. Here's another quote from Wiki:

Suicide in Japan
"Japanese society's attitude toward suicide has been termed "tolerant", and on many occasions a suicide is seen as a morally responsible action."
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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Careful, you may be using a little too much common sense and logic in your posts. Providing credible evidence and links to support your opinions is just, well, unfair.
her "source" read-
"Physicians for a national health program"


That is not a source, it is biased lobbying propaganda...
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