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The economy is dynamic. You aren't going to see everything unless you look at both forests and trees. Think of the 2008 Bush Stimulus Plan. A lot of people got a check for a few hundred dollars. Nobody got a new job in the mail. But even with a lot of people using those checks to add to savings or pay down debt, the demand that arose from the part of that $150 billion or so that was spent did save or create a lot of jobs. And the much larger Obama Stimulus that came along a year later has done even more, in part because it was deliberately targeted to those who would spend the money the quickest. Whether you see it or not, the stimulus cash has been out there doing the job.
The same is true with project support. If I give you $50,000 to support your day care center and you use it to hire one new person, that's a net gain. But it is as well if you give ten people a $5,000 raise. You don't get the up-front new hire, but the demand resulting from the money being spent does result in jobs being saved or created either way you do it.
I don't know whether the lady in question got the math right, but to suggest that the pay raises given to her 508 employees did not save or create any jobs is simply not to understand how the economy works.
Wholy mackerel. You just don't know when to lay down and concede do you. Here you are defending the lies. Now all I can do is sit back and laugh at all of your future posts. You aren't really as intelligent as you try to make yourself out to be, you are a follower a hypocrit and most of all... A PARTISAN HACK! "to suggest that the pay raises given to her 508 employees did not save or create any jobs is simply not to understand how the economy works"
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's economic recovery program saved 935 jobs at the Southwest Georgia Community Action Council, an impressive success story for the stimulus plan. Trouble is, only 508 people work there.
Wholy mackerel. You just don't know when to lay down and concede do you. Here you are defending the lies. Now all I can do is sit back and laugh at all of your future posts. You aren't really as intelligent as you try to make yourself out to be, you are a follower a hypocrit and most of all... A PARTISAN HACK! "to suggest that the pay raises given to her 508 employees did not save or create any jobs is simply not to understand how the economy works"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
what dont you understand about
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Originally Posted by saganista
[y]ou don't get the up-front new hire, but the demand resulting from the money being spent does result in jobs being saved or created either way you do it.
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"'If I give you a raise, it is going to save a portion of your job,' HHS spokesman Luis Rosero said."
U-Bet .. and the glich is this current administration.
Giving a raise is not creating a job .. it's not even creating a fraction of a job.
Can you imagine what a mortgage company would do if after you painted your 10 year old house, you declared it to be new and want a new home asking price?
The house is 10 years old .. nothing new about it at all ..
The ignorance in Washington DC these days just boggles the mind.
dude, are you sure all of the ignorance is in DC? It seems to me that much of it is among the electorate since so many of them accept all those spun lies that come out of DC. Some of that crap will stop as soon as the ignorant public stops accepting all those lies.
"""At Southwest Georgia Community Action Council in Moultrie, Ga., director Myrtis Mulkey-Ndawula said she followed the guidelines the Obama administration provided. She said she multiplied the 508 employees by 1.84 — the percentage pay raise they received — and came up with 935 jobs saved"""
how does a company that only has 508 employees, 'save' 935 jobs??????????
By using that good old Democrat math that they use in the White House and throughout the followers who accept their figures. How else could you accept that kind of talk?
"'If I give you a raise, it is going to save a portion of your job,' HHS spokesman Luis Rosero said."
BS this money was not meant to be used to give people a raise it was meant to create jobs.
They werent in risk of losing their jobs if the company was able to give out raises. Since they could have used that money to maintain the employees having work to do
I don't know whether the lady in question got the math right...
Typically, if one were instructed to multiply the number of employees (508) by the rate of a pay increase (1.84%), it would look like this...
508 x .0184 = 9.3472.
But I don't have a copy of the instructions. I don't know what the steps before or after the one reported are. I don't know how capable this woman is when it comes to mathematics. Certainly, these very pages go to show that there are many out there without much of a math facility at all. I believe that the National Director of Head Start described this particular report as a "glitch", noting that there had been confusion among some as to how to fill out the forms. At that level, you are talking about someone making a mistake in following the procedures, not about procedures that are themselves mistaken. Not counting pay raises in jobs saved or created estimates will result in under-estimating jobs saved and created.
Last edited by saganista; 11-04-2009 at 02:01 PM..
I don't know whether the lady in question got the math right...
Typically, if one were instructed to multiply the number of employees (508) by the rate of a pay increase (1.84%), it would look like this...
508 x .0184 = 9.3472.
But I don't have a copy of the instructions. I don't know what the steps before or after the one reported are. I don't know how capable this woman is when it comes to mathematics. Certainly, these very pages go to show that there are many out there without much of a math facility at all. I believe that the National Director of Head Start descirbed this particular report as a "glitch", noting that there had been confusion among some as to how to fill out the forms. At that level, you are talking about someone making a mistake in following the procedures, not about procedures that are themselves mistaken. Not counting pay raises in jobs saved or created estimates will result in under-estimating jobs saved and created.
the problem is we dont have the 'worksheet',,,but you also MISS READ the article....."She said she multiplied the 508 employees by 1.84 — the percentage pay raise they received """
it does say multiply by 1.84%...it says multiply by 1.84
st sipmle fact is that the amount of jobs 'saved' that is being reported to the PUBLIC by the ADMINISTRATION is false...... a lie repeated is still a lie
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