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The fact that you can't work your way through something does not mean that it is a lie.
Oooh sag, you do understand we are all laughing at your expense..
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Originally Posted by saganista
Think of the 2008 Bush Stimulus Plan. A lot of people got a check for a few hundred dollars. Nobody got a new job in the mail.
So you all of a sudden proclaimed that the Bush stimulus plan which actually gave people cash to spend,
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Originally Posted by saganista
And if I give my staff a long overdue raise, and they all respond by at last taking every shirt they own to the dry cleaners, and the dry cleaner who was about to lay off an assistant keeps him on instead as all this once-missing business suddenly reappears, is that a job saved or not?
Was nothing like this plan which gave people cash to spend...
How about if these people chose to pay down debt under their "pay raise"? You did just admit that doesnt create jobs under Bush, but suddenly it does under Obama.
What happens next year when the daycare doesnt have the money to support the "pay raise"? LAYOFFS.. NET LOSS, not NET GAIN...
No doubt some very nice swamp land also. Congratulations on your savvy acquisition. The fact is that paperwork prepared in the field by thousands of people who have never filled out such forms before is going to contain errors. If that's your big complaint, I'm afraid you'll have to go to the back of the line. Of course, your complaint is very important to us, so please do continue to stand there until your complaint can be dealt with in turn...
If I give you a raise using money I didnt have, and got from a government grant, NEXT year you will be expecting atleast the SAME amount you got paid this year.
Since I didnt have it to begin with to give you a raise, I'm forced with laying people off.
For every "raise" subsidized the ultimate outcome is LAYOFFS, it just delayed them until next years budgets..
Somewhere there is a story about police officers faced with this same issue. Grant paid for the officers to be hired, grant expired, police officers were to be laid off..
with this raise you accept new job responsibilities (= are responsible for increased productivity) that in a time of looser money would be given to an entirely new position. Your raise = the productivity of a new position at a fraction of the cost.
with this raise you accept new job responsibilities (= are responsible for increased productivity) that in a time of looser money would be given to an entirely new position. Your raise = the productivity of a new position at a fraction of the cost.
Where did you get this from? I've often got new pay raises without new responsibilities. Its called a COST OF LIVING adjustment..
Even if true, how would a daycare employee increase production? Change the diapers faster? Make the kids eat faster? Make kids run faster through the playground?
"Move it move it move it.. I dont wanna hear no sassy mouth you little maggots"
Where did you get this from? I've often got new pay raises without new responsibilities. Its called a COST OF LIVING adjustment..
Even if true, how would a daycare employee increase production? Change the diapers faster? Make the kids eat faster? Make kids run faster through the playground? How does a daycare employee increase productivity to compensate for your so called "increase" in pay?
The Southwest Community Action center isnt a day care center. The Administration for Children and Families at Health and Human Services isnt a day care center. In fact I dont see mention of a day care center anywhere in the OP's article.
Where did you get this from? I've often got new pay raises without new responsibilities. Its called a COST OF LIVING adjustment..
Even if true, how would a daycare employee increase production? Change the diapers faster? Make the kids eat faster? Make kids run faster through the playground?
"Move it move it move it.. I dont wanna hear no sassy mouth you little maggots"
the problem is we dont have the 'worksheet',,,but you also MISS READ the article....."She said she multiplied the 508 employees by 1.84 — the percentage pay raise they received """ it does say multiply by 1.84%...it says multiply by 1.84
Perhaps you were typing while riding a mechanical bull, but you should try again in any case. The article is quoting the woman, not the instructions. Notice that the instructions for Line 3 of your Form 1040 -- Schedule A say to Multiply line 2 by 7.5% but that (.075) appears immediately thereafter. This is because the IRS has learned over the years how dumb even otherwise competent people can be when it comes to elementary mathematics.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
st sipmle fact is that the amount of jobs 'saved' that is being reported to the PUBLIC by the ADMINISTRATION is false...... a lie repeated is still a lie
It is a simple fact that the jobs thus far saved or created are being reported as close to real time as possible, and that the estimates are from preliminary data that are subject to revision. Sort of like the 3.5% GDP growth rate for the third quarter. It too is based upon preliminary data that will be revised. Learn to live with it. Preliminary ≠ Final.
Sanganista - nice dodge. Do you believe conceptually that if wall street execs get a big pay raise it is the same as increasing employment?
Well, you see right there that Obama can 'claim' that oh, let's say... 100 trillion jobs were 'created or saved' on Wall Street because they got all those big bonuses and such, you know? ...rofl!
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...rofl!
