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Old 11-05-2009, 10:01 AM
 
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Defend itself is extremely subjective. Eliminating threat, fine. Roll over towns with tanks and establish settlements, no.

on many issues we have agreed. on this one... well...

we certainly dont.


I will stop being hard-line against the PLO and for Israel when the PLO decides that their number 1 goal is no longer the destruction of Israel as a nation.... that is a stated goal. They call it Annihilation

Israel does not have such a stated goal against the PLO.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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because Israel useses its weapons to defend itslef and the Palestinians use them to murder innocent people.
Like those Israeli settlers taking pot shots at CHRISTIAN Palestinian children on their way to school, or using hellfire rockets on apartment buildings inn Gaza at 2AM. Defend itself HAHAHA
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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on many issues we have agreed. on this one... well...

we certainly dont.


I will stop being hard-line against the PLO and for Israel when the PLO decides that their number 1 goal is no longer the destruction of Israel as a nation.... that is a stated goal. They call it Annihilation

Israel does not have such a stated goal against the PLO.
You mean there are no Israeli Political party's that call for the forcible expulsion of all Palestinians from the West Bank? You had better check again

PLO is a bunch of Quislings put in power by the CIA and Israeli airstrikes.
They sold out a decade ago.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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Okay, for those of you who think Israel acted too aggressively:

Tell me what your take on Hamas/Hezbollah rocket-fire. Obviously those thousands of rockets they have come from somewhere, no? If they simply stockpiled in case of an attack that would be one thing. BUT...they stockpile TO attack/provoke, and then cry foul when Israel responds.

Of course Iran doesn't threaten another country directly (they're not dumb), they have their Hezbollah subordinates do it for them.

Much the same way the US used the mujahideen against the Soviets
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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You mean there are no Israeli Political party's that call for the forcible expulsion of all Palestinians from the West Bank? You had better check again

PLO is a bunch of Quislings put in power by the CIA and Israeli airstrikes.
They sold out a decade ago.
I used PLO instead having to spell check Palestinian.

and NO there is no national policy to distroy all of the Palestinians. the Isrealis do not have mickey mouse teaching their kids to kill Palestinians.

when the Palestinians stop the stupidiy, I will listen to them.

until then, the actions of Israel will be viewed as self defense. in much the same way that if someone tries to break into my home, i wont just warn them away and i wont stop putting holes in them until i am out of ammo..
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Calling Israel "scumbag" is not the same as calling Jews "scumbag".
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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Scumbag is a "vulgarity"? LOL Hey, if the shoe fits, wear it...or in this case if the yarmulke fits......The Israeli gov't. and their apologists are scumbags in my book. When they stop using my tax dollars to do their evil deeds, then I won't care what they do, but so long as they have their hand in my pocket, you can damn well believe I'll criticize them.

Remember the U.S.S. Liberty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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You've been cited for infractions for good reason. Posting extremist sentiments such as your desire to see every Israeli man, woman, and child murdered, or your use of vulgarities such as "scumbags" to describe Israel is highly inappropriate. And these are just examples. I haven't even seen most of your posts.

Such comments only engender indignation and incitement.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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you people who support those stinking terrorist that are the palistinans are just wacky crazy
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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This is a great article that links to how Israel is coddled by the US and how much infuence they have in the US.

Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

It links to this column in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that advises the US to stop sucking up to these right wing neocon chickenhawks.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1124928.html?
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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you people who support those stinking terrorist that are the palistinans are just wacky crazy
Being war weary isn't wacky. However ignoring the intertwined geopolitical situations of ignoring allies in areas where we have few should far outweigh ideology.
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